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Thread: 98% of the Earth's Surface is Hotter Now Than at Anytime in the Past 2000 Years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Are you kidding? We're in a solar minimum, we should be cooling right now.
    2019 will likely be one of the hottest years on records, hotter than 2018, and 2015-2018 are the 4 hottest years on record. Also, this analysis did not include any years after 2000.

    The analysis was done on 51 year time frames, so solar minimums would be averaged with solar maximums.

    Also, the solar minimum should occur next year and it won't produce any more cooling than we experienced this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    And we won't stop the next ice age from coming.
    There won't be any more ice ages as long as humans are around. We can easily prevent ice ages by modifying the atmosphere. Ice ages are caused by tiny reductions in solar radiation

    incident on the earth that occurs over very long periods of time plus climate system feedbacks .

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilCat Breath View Post
    I believe we are. This is the coolest summer in my memory.
    I have no idea how to respond to that blatant denial of reality.
    Don't taze me Bro!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    I have no idea how to respond to that blatant denial of reality.
    There's really no point in doing so.

    They won't believe it until Mar a Lago slips beneath the waves, and even then they'll be kicking and screaming.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ost-to-the-sea

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    Even if the doom scenario of the left is true, nothing is going to stop it.

    Every idea every plan of the left is flawed and wont work all it will do is put an absurd financial burden on this country to no end.

    There are 7.8 billion people in the world, in the USA there are a mere 329,000,000. Until the left can convince at least 4 billion of the 7.8 billion to share the huge financial burden and stop what they are doing, its a worthless endeavor.

    The world will NOT stop using plastic, there is no replacement for it, plastic is in EVERYTHING we see and touch everyday and its going nowhere. Worthless gestures that just annoy people like banning straws does absolutely nothing.


    There are some goals that can be achieved to our countries benefit. Cleaning up our waterways and stopping water polution, im all for it. Stopping Unnecessary Polutants like from Coal plants etc. If the left took a "reasonable approach and addressed one issue at a time and would honestly address that unless most of the world does it with us, it wont accomplish anything then we could take some babysteps that would benefit us to do for "OURSELVES"




    But these wacky multi trillion dollar plans of Warren and Ocasio Cortez are absurd and wont work.
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    The 950 AD to 1250 AD reconstruction is bogus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skepticalmike View Post
    There won't be any more ice ages as long as humans are around. We can easily prevent ice ages by modifying the atmosphere. Ice ages are caused by tiny reductions in solar radiation

    incident on the earth that occurs over very long periods of time plus climate system feedbacks .
    Your hubris is astonishing.
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    I wonder why we conflate managing air and water cleanliness with our myth-making and myth believing about changes to Earth's climate?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by skepticalmike View Post
    The 3 graphs below are from an article at the website, carbonbrief.org, titled "The globally coherent rise in temperatures seen since the start of the industrial revolution is unparalleled in at

    least the past 2000 years." This article is a summary from a July 2019 article in the journal, Nature. The graph on the right represents the warmest 51 year periods during the past 2000 years.

    The tiny squares near the bottom represent areas where the earth (2% of it) was warmer in the past than than during the late 20th century. The middle graph represents the Medieval Warming

    Anomaly (MWA) with 40% of the globe experiencing warming at the same time. The Roman Warm Period, the MWA, and the "Little Ice Age" were all primarily regional events with warming or

    cooling not occurring simultaneously over most of the earth's surface.










    The bottom 2 graphs illustrate that the Medieval Warm Anomaly was not so warm compared to the 1999-2008 time frame; most regions were much cooler than the 1961 to 1990
    period.

    This science is consistent with previous studies and indicates that the present warming is not the result of natural (non-human) causes. Natural cycles tend to shift heat from
    one region of the globe to another without greatly affecting the global mean temperature.






    Reconstructed temperature anomaly from 950 AD to 1250 AD, temperature anomaly is relative to the 1961-1990 reference period (From Skepticalscience.com)
    Gray areas indicate no adequate temperature data










    Surface temperature anomaly for the period 1999 to 2008 relative to the 1961 to 1990 reference period (from skepticalscience.com)
    Just another bunch of claptrap. No doubt from the failed cartoonists communication experiment, (un)skepticalscience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Even if the doom scenario of the left is true, nothing is going to stop it.

    Every idea every plan of the left is flawed and wont work all it will do is put an absurd financial burden on this country to no end.

    There are 7.8 billion people in the world, in the USA there are a mere 329,000,000. Until the left can convince at least 4 billion of the 7.8 billion to share the huge financial burden and stop what they are doing, its a worthless endeavor.

    The world will NOT stop using plastic, there is no replacement for it, plastic is in EVERYTHING we see and touch everyday and its going nowhere. Worthless gestures that just annoy people like banning straws does absolutely nothing.


    There are some goals that can be achieved to our countries benefit. Cleaning up our waterways and stopping water polution, im all for it. Stopping Unnecessary Polutants like from Coal plants etc. If the left took a "reasonable approach and addressed one issue at a time and would honestly address that unless most of the world does it with us, it wont accomplish anything then we could take some babysteps that would benefit us to do for "OURSELVES"




    But these wacky multi trillion dollar plans of Warren and Ocasio Cortez are absurd and wont work.
    Solar and wind energy are becoming price competitive with fossil fuels. As the earth continues to warm more people will be convinced of the need for renewable energy or nuclear energy.

    Carbon dioxide emissions were once rising exponentially and now they are beginning to level off. The emissions peak may occur in about 5 years with a gradual decline into the future.

    I predict a slow decline in carbon dioxide emissions after around 2025 and the possibility of a steep decline if the climate continues to warm in the coming decades. It will probably take

    a significantly warmer planet to motivate governments around the world to take more serious action.

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