Is the U.S. Becoming a Third World Nation?

[Crepitus]

Only the daft think that the US is 3rd world. We have our ghettos with gang violence. But we have the largest middle class in the world.

Pretty much the only one left and it's shrinking fast....

[EvilCat Breath]

The US is hardly a third world nation. Actually nowhere near a third world nation.

Yes there is poverty and regions that have seen huge economic downturns. Whenever I drive through areas like northern New York State, I'm struck by the dilapidated conditions and shuttered businesses. That has nothing to do with immigration laws and has everything to do with policies that perpetuated economic inequality and that rewarded corporations moving their operations overseas.

New York is much like California. It wasn't corporations moving operations overseas. It was over regulation and strangling taxes that caused productive people to leave. When the life blood leaves, dilapidation and decay follows.

[Peter1469]

Pretty much the only one left and it's shrinking fast....

Silly and false. So long as we have an administration that isn't hell bent on raising taxes.

[Crepitus]

Silly and false. So long as we have an administration that isn't hell bent on raising taxes.

Not so. The kiddo.class has been shrinking for ages.

[Rationalist]

"Back in the day, nations that didn’t qualify as either developed (First World) or developing (Second World) were by default Third World, impoverished, corrupt and what we now refer to as failed states–governments that were incapable of improving the lives of their people and the machinery of governance, generally as a result of corruption and self-serving elites, i.e. kleptocracies. Is the U.S. slipping into Third World status? While many scoff at the very question, others citing the rise of homelessness, entrenched pockets of abject poverty and the decaying state of infrastructure might nod “yes.” These are not uniquely Third World problems, they’re symptoms of a status quo that’s fast losing First World capabilities. What characterizes Third World/Failing States isn’t just poverty, crumbling infrastructure and endemic corruption; at a systems level these are the key dynamics in Third World/Failing States: 1. The status quo protects insiders at the expense of everyone else."......continued @.....https://www.keiserreport.com/2019/08...on/#more-87473

Culturally, a lot of the West is headed that way thanks to open border policies. Economically, that's probably true of some Western countries as well.

If America slips into Second World status, a lot of it will have to do with the rise in popularity of socialist policies and certain Latin American influences.

[Retirednsmilin308]

Tell that to the poor areas of large cities.

A lot of resources recognize that majority of the United States lives at a standard that is "first world" and "developed" but that those who live in poverty often live in conditions that are expected in "third world" countries. What makes the United States different from other countries, because all first-world countries have some level of poverty, is the legislation and lack of supports. For example, access to healthcare while having laws that punish the homeless for basically existing.

Although, I think that some aboriginal groups in Canada may be living in conditions that are "third world" in nature.

I grew up in a poor section of Houston.
I used my own initiative to rise above and out of it.
No one should depend on the government for their individual success.
Those that do will stay poor forever.

Individual initiative is what makes all the difference.

You can't blame the government for being poor. You can only blame yourself.

[Retirednsmilin308]

Some would justifiably argue that changing a US president , or changing from democrat to republican has become no different than changing your socks.....ergo , the real decision makers don't change , and the Fed still controls the money , regardless of whose turn it is to sit in the big chair down at ground level ?

I will not argue those points one bit.
Changing them changes nothing, and keeping them changes nothing.

It is the individual industry of individual Americans that make this country great and why so many want to come here.
Politics and politicians come and go, but our own individual industry is why we are a great country.
That is also why some hate us. We will not play by their rules.

If you have a good idea, here is one of the few places you can give it a shot and see if it works.
...and if it does you become rich.
If it does not, then you can try again or give up.

but like i said before. I actually love the United States.
So many that bad-mouth her actually hate her, so they have an agenda to pursue.

[bulletbob]

pjl need to worry about down under becoming a third world nation .

[donttread]

"Back in the day, nations that didn’t qualify as either developed (First World) or developing (Second World) were by default Third World, impoverished, corrupt and what we now refer to as failed states–governments that were incapable of improving the lives of their people and the machinery of governance, generally as a result of corruption and self-serving elites, i.e. kleptocracies. Is the U.S. slipping into Third World status? While many scoff at the very question, others citing the rise of homelessness, entrenched pockets of abject poverty and the decaying state of infrastructure might nod “yes.” These are not uniquely Third World problems, they’re symptoms of a status quo that’s fast losing First World capabilities. What characterizes Third World/Failing States isn’t just poverty, crumbling infrastructure and endemic corruption; at a systems level these are the key dynamics in Third World/Failing States: 1. The status quo protects insiders at the expense of everyone else."......continued @.....https://www.keiserreport.com/2019/08...on/#more-87473

No we have way too many super rich who still continue their empires without private armies. We are not a third world country but we do make them.

[Peter1469]

No we have way too many super rich who still continue their empires without private armies. We are not a third world country but we do make them.

How so?