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    Ring has partnered with 400 police forces; gave police stats about users

    Two Articles here about Ring First one from The Washington Post. It is long and they do point out that Bezos owns The Washington Post, Amazon and Ring. Again, it's a long piece, but worth reading. https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...t%20Newsletter

    Next, from Gizmodo : https://gizmodo.com/ring-gave-police...w-e-1837713840Ring Gave Police Stats About Users Who Said ‘No’ to Law Enforcement Requests

    Amazon’s home security company Ring tracked how its users responded to law enforcement requests for surveillance footage captured by Ring devices, and it provided overviews of that data to police departments upon request.

    In emails obtained by Gizmodo, Ring informed a Florida police department about the number of times residents had refused police access to their cameras or ignored their requests altogether.
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    1984 on steroids.
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    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../ring-a31.html
    Users are also notified when another police department is added to the surveillance network with the message, “Your Neighborhood just got a whole lot stronger.”
    Make that "Your Neighborhood just got a whole lot scarier."

    Police departments across the country have responded ecstatically to the Ring phenomena because it gives them “the upper hand.” In the high-tech Orwellian world of Amazon and law enforcement artificial intelligence technology, the conversion of every front door into a spy window and every resident into a government informant is the epitome of “neighborhood safety.”
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    At this point, it's not much different than law enforcement asking neighbors or business owners if their security cameras picked up suspicious activity in the area after a crime.

    The only difference is that Ring manages the subscriptions of its customers so it knows where the doorbell cameras are located and that gives the investigators a foot-up, so to speak. But, law enforcement cannot obtain the footage without the homeowner's express permission.

    I don't have a Ring, but I have security cameras and if a crime happened here, I'd be happy to share the footage with law enforcement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../ring-a31.html Make that "Your Neighborhood just got a whole lot scarier."
    Why be scared? The footage belongs to the homeowner and he/she has to give permission for law enforcement to be able to look at it.
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    SMH How much of the two articles did you read?
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    Doh, oh come on, that didn't happen ahooy ahooy doh:

    Home video security systems across the United States are increasingly being integrated with police and law enforcement systems that access an expanding network of residential photos and recordings. In many cases, video streams and images are being uploaded into cloud storage accounts, categorized and shared via “neighborhood crime” databases that violate the basic democratic rights of the public.
    Ahooy ahooy ... doh ahooy ... shucks ... ahooy ...

    I opposed the idea of neighborhood crime watch when it first reared its ugly head back about 1986. Remember McGruff and "take a bite outa crime"? Takes a teddy bear and cartoon to introduce Big Brother, eh? The notion of spying on each other is wrong.

    Very uncool and un-PC -- me not it. Well, you asked for it, you got it. Cool.
    http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/120290-Vodafone-denies-5G-coronavirus-connection

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