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    Eyes Wide Shut: 20 years on, Stanley Kubrick’s most notorious film is still shrouded

    Eyes Wide Shut: 20 years on, Stanley Kubrick’s most notorious film is still shrouded in mystery.

    I put this in the conspiracy room for a reason. Kubrick created Eyes Wide Shut to warn us of the international sex trade by the elite. And it is much worse to include pedophilia. The "media" attacks this position. They are likely complicate. Kubrick would have said more, but he died /was eliminated.

    Eyes Wide Shut, along with all that, appeared to foreshadow the unravelling of Cruise and his co-star Kidman’s outwardly luminous marriage. They divorced in August 2001 – almost exactly two years since the project’s release.It seemed ominous and more than a coincidence. Had Kubrick’s caper put a stake through the heart of their relationship?

    Such were the questions lurking in the future as Cruise, grinning like the matinee idol he was, sat down to a long lunch with Kubrick at Childwickbury in 1995. The conversation was mostly trivial. They discussed their shared passions: vintage cameras, planes, the New York Yankees. Cruise told Kubrick how seeing the director’s 2001: A Space Odyssey at age six had blown his mind. “I couldn’t stop thinking about it. What is life? What is space? What is existence?” (Some of us will have had the same experience watching Top Gun.)


    “He was just waiting, alone in a garden,” Cruise remembered of meeting Kubrick. “He walked me around the grounds, and I just remember thinking, ‘This guy is kind of a magical, wonderful guy.’”


    Still, they did eventually get around to the matter at hand. Kubrick wanted the star of Top Gun and $#@!tail to play the lead in his sexually frank adaptation of an Austrian avant-garde novel from the 1920s. The film was to lay a seemingly solid marriage out on the figurative slab. Like a pathologist peeling back waxy layers of skin, Kubrick would coldly scrutinise what festered beneath.


    Cruise was all in. And he had a suggestion of his own. He wondered if Kubrick might consider casting his real-life spouse, Nicole Kidman, as the wife. Two decades on, this unlikely teaming-up of hermit director, $#@!sure actor and screen siren can be considered one of Hollywood’s most fascinating anomalies. How on earth did this movie ever come to exist?
    The article is wrong. The story was current Hollywood- not some distant past.
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    Well, all this went right by me. I don't even recall the film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Eyes Wide Shut: 20 years on, Stanley Kubrick’s most notorious film is still shrouded in mystery.

    I put this in the conspiracy room for a reason. Kubrick created Eyes Wide Shut to warn us of the international sex trade by the elite. And it is much worse to include pedophilia. The "media" attacks this position. They are likely complicate. Kubrick would have said more, but he died /was eliminated.



    The article is wrong. The story was current Hollywood- not some distant past.
    On a lighter note "Eyes Wide Shut " has also been noted as a " hear no evil see no evil " reference to Kubricks real filming of the "fake" moon landing in the Arizona desert.
    .or was it New Mexico??. Ahh.so many moon landings, so few capable directors. Drats.. After all Kubrick had recently completed "2001 A Space Odessey". He not only understood the technology of the day to get a genuine article look and feel had demonstrated as such in 2001. Kubrick had an uncanny sense of where the line lay between Realism/SurreaIlism and Hyperealism walking it perfectly. ..
    BTW..our old buddy" Major Tom " was introduced to us. As in " ground control (as in ground control to don k-notts *snicker*. Major Tom was immortalized by David Bowie in the song "Space Oddity" and was thought to have burned in on reentry in "2001 , Space Oddessy" in the late 60's. However. Major Tom did not burn in as believed. Bowies 1980 " Ashes to Ashes" tells us the Major survived and is floating helpless in space ..." Can you hear me Major Tom...?"..
    Lest we forget Bowie wss "A lad in sane" aka .." aladdin sane"



    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    Well, all this went right by me. I don't even recall the film.
    How did you miss it!? Eyes Wide is the " Fight Club " of the "relationships and sex" genre. It is the "Forrest Gump" of Gump stuff!! Kubrick was heavy into symbolism. Duly note the Tennis Racquet and Lamp laying against the wall as Phallic symbols at the :16 mark of this...
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    After seeing the film, I sought out and read an English translation of the 1926 novella 'Dream Story' and was struck by the almost scene-for-scene transposition of the story from '20s Vienna to '90s NYC. It was truly remarkable. The film's realistic depiction of the jealousies and resentments that sometimes visit the best of marriages was excellent. The notorious "sex orgy" scenes were about as far from erotic as it's possible to get, which of course was no accident - the odd masks the participants wore reinforcing the sense of mechanical joylessness.

    Many of Kubrick's works have become fodder for the conspiracy lovers. I was re-watching 'The Shining' a couple of days ago and followed it up with reading about some of the goofy rumors and conspiracy theories surrounding that movie - as an example the theory that Kubrick slipped several clues into the movie pointing to his having participated in the filming of the "fake moon landing" of Apollo 11.

    The article cited in the OP reads, quite honestly, like something a staffer on 'Us Weekly' might have slipped through on a day his Editor was out sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    After seeing the film, I sought out and read an English translation of the 1926 novella 'Dream Story' and was struck by the almost scene-for-scene transposition of the story from '20s Vienna to '90s NYC. It was truly remarkable. The film's realistic depiction of the jealousies and resentments that sometimes visit the best of marriages was excellent. The notorious "sex orgy" scenes were about as far from erotic as it's possible to get, which of course was no accident - the odd masks the participants wore reinforcing the sense of mechanical joylessness.

    Many of Kubrick's works have become fodder for the conspiracy lovers. I was re-watching 'The Shining' a couple of days ago and followed it up with reading about some of the goofy rumors and conspiracy theories surrounding that movie - as an example the theory that Kubrick slipped several clues into the movie pointing to his having participated in the filming of the "fake moon landing" of Apollo 11.

    The article cited in the OP reads, quite honestly, like something a staffer on 'Us Weekly' might have slipped through on a day his Editor was out sick.
    For me it was Kubick's technical expertise. The tracking shots he made famous, his abilities with light and lenses, going wide angle a great deal. His stories have always been secondary to me, except for Barry Lyndon. The eighteenth century portrayal of history had me paying more attention to surrounding characters.

    The OP is a bottom feeding exercise: secrets of the Templar treasure... Kubrick wouldn't even look up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    For me it was Kubick's technical expertise. The tracking shots he made famous, his abilities with light and lenses, going wide angle a great deal. His stories have always been secondary to me, except for Barry Lyndon. The eighteenth century portrayal of history had me paying more attention to surrounding characters.

    The OP is a bottom feeding exercise: secrets of the Templar treasure... Kubrick wouldn't even look up.
    Kubrick's films are not the standard, cookie-cutter Hollywood product, and of course that upsets a lot of people who are only looking for that kind of thing. Like certain other filmmakers, he's accused of being "obscure" or confusing for the sake of being different, or because he wasn't somehow talented enough to make the sort of movies that don't require much thinking on the part of the audience. Or, as we've seen, that his films must contain clues to some unspoken truth about some real world world wrongdoing or conspiracy.

    Don't get me wrong - I love mindless action movies and other examples of the "cookie-cutter Hollywood product"; but I recognize that there can be legitimately great films that don't fit that mold. You can appreciate a complex dish, prepared by a master chef, with so many ingredients you really don't fully know what you're eating, and still love and even prefer a good cheeseburger.

    I can remember being on vacation in St. Louis with the family when I was fourteen and going to see 2001: A Space Odyssey at a Cinerama theater. If you've never seen the movie, it ends with what I think can fairly be described as some very jarring and, yes, confusing images. As the credits rolled, my father loudly expressed his belief, in so many words, that "they" - whoever had made the movie - obviously hadn't known how to end it and had just put in anything that came to mind. Of course I didn't really understand exactly what had happened, either, and wouldn't until I read Arthur C. Clarke's novel adapted from the movie, but my father's reaction didn't seem right or appropriate to me.
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    Kubrick was on the inside. He uncovered 'Pizzagate. (The real one, not what the 'media' reported on.) And died for it.
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    theme song to "Eyes Wide Shut"....

    I'm yo.
    This my brother yo
    We yo yo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Eyes Wide Shut: 20 years on, Stanley Kubrick’s most notorious film is still shrouded in mystery.

    I put this in the conspiracy room for a reason. Kubrick created Eyes Wide Shut to warn us of the international sex trade by the elite. And it is much worse to include pedophilia. The "media" attacks this position. They are likely complicate. Kubrick would have said more, but he died /was eliminated.



    The article is wrong. The story was current Hollywood- not some distant past.
    WTF does that say. Do you know ANYTHING about Kubrick? other than what your mouth piece told you to say.


    What was the book about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    WTF does that say. Do you know ANYTHING about Kubrick? other than what your mouth piece told you to say.


    What was the book about?
    I do.

    Did you post this comment in the wrong place?
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