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    The local time is 0308 and i just gave the Benjamin three pumps and let it rest on the couch in the man cave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
    I have lots of lubes, but no 3 in 1.
    I have Hoppe's Lubrication oil in the orange squeeze bottle,
    lots of thread cutting oil,
    some Wahl oil for my whisker clippers,
    and automotive 10w 30.

    ..and some Break Free CLP, but that is also a bore cleaner too.

    It makes sense using lube on the pellets.
    I will wait for your reply as it is zero-dark-thirty here right now.
    Turns out i was down for 13 hours.


    more answers to your questions in a later post.
    I'd go with the Hoppe's
    Although I've been using 3 in 1 on my first Benjamin from 1958 and it still shoots like new.
    If you can find some it would be worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
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    I also have this high dollar $400 German air rifle that I feel I completely wasted my money on.
    An RWS Diana 460 T-06 Magnum.
    (macho sounding tough guy name isn't it)

    To me, a rifle is all about accuracy.
    It is powerful, and i was told it needed to be "shot in" before you can begin to test its accuracy.
    Well after shooting 300 of those cheap crap Chinese pellets just to put lead down its barrel, its accuracy is pure crap.
    I have BB guns that are better.

    I got it for the usual survivalist reasons but have found my Remington 514 single shot .22 using CB caps is 100% better.
    It is also actually quieter.
    Does not have plastic front and rear sights,
    Does not take three men and a boy to (rooster)
    and is faster to use over all.
    It is even lighter.

    Am I doing something wrong with this very expensive German club?
    To be honest I've only recently acquired a couple of similar pellet guns so I don't know a lot about them.
    One thing you might want to try is clean the barrel (because it's steel) with a regular bore cleaner brush.
    The rifling might be loaded up from the cheap dry chinese pellets.
    I do however share your disdain with that type of pellet gun.
    The 2 that I acquired last summer at an auction are not very accurate. One is a Crosman and the other a Benjamin.
    I'm not impressed either. Even my son prefers the older Benjamin 342.

    Do you have a scope on the Diana?
    If so is it a scope that's designed for air guns or .22 rifles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminO View Post
    To be honest I've only recently acquired a couple of similar pellet guns so I don't know a lot about them.
    One thing you might want to try is clean the barrel (because it's steel) with a regular bore cleaner brush.
    The rifling might be loaded up from the cheap dry chinese pellets.
    I do however share your disdain with that type of pellet gun.
    The 2 that I acquired last summer at an auction are not very accurate. One is a Crosman and the other a Benjamin.
    I'm not impressed either. Even my son prefers the older Benjamin 342.

    Do you have a scope on the Diana?
    If so is it a scope that's designed for air guns or .22 rifles?


    Sorry for the long delay.
    I hurt myself pretty bad and was flat on my back last several days.
    All I could do was feed the wildlife and the cats and then crawl back in bed.
    Sometimes, literally.

    Yes, I had a Crossman scope on that thing, but it was not worth it, its accuracy was so crappy.

    Hey, can i shoot any of the cans i already have rather than a Campbell's soup can?
    They are pretty strong and i do not believe any are made of aluminum.
    Is there a way to tell?

    You also said 30 feet if i remember right, but how many pumps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminO View Post
    I'd go with the Hoppe's
    Although I've been using 3 in 1 on my first Benjamin from 1958 and it still shoots like new.
    If you can find some it would be worth it.


    Oh, after 26 hours the air was still compressed and it fired nice and as expected.
    Then recocking the bolt, I only heard the spring release.

    Thank you, Professor Pellet, that was a very nice test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
    Sorry for the long delay.
    I hurt myself pretty bad and was flat on my back last several days.
    All I could do was feed the wildlife and the cats and then crawl back in bed.
    Sometimes, literally.

    Yes, I had a Crossman scope on that thing, but it was not worth it, its accuracy was so crappy.

    Hey, can i shoot any of the cans i already have rather than a Campbell's soup can?
    They are pretty strong and i do not believe any are made of aluminum.
    Is there a way to tell?

    You also said 30 feet if i remember right, but how many pumps?

    Your friend,
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    Glad you are feeling better. Stay that way!!
    Any old tin can will work. If a magnet sticks to it it's not aluminum.
    And yea I'd suggest about 25 to 30 feet with 3, then maybe 4 and then maybe 5 pumps to see if you notice any additional power as you increase the pumps.
    As far as scopes, I have been lucky to find (usually on ebay) the old vintage Weaver V22 scopes. I have several on different pellet guns and I love them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
    Sorry for the long delay.
    I hurt myself pretty bad and was flat on my back last several days.
    All I could do was feed the wildlife and the cats and then crawl back in bed.
    Sometimes, literally.


    Yes, I had a Crossman scope on that thing, but it was not worth it, its accuracy was so crappy.

    Hey, can i shoot any of the cans i already have rather than a Campbell's soup can?
    They are pretty strong and i do not believe any are made of aluminum.
    Is there a way to tell?

    You also said 30 feet if i remember right, but how many pumps?

    Your friend,
    Dave
    I'm so sorry to hear that! I hope you're feeling better and on the mend now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
    Oh, after 26 hours the air was still compressed and it fired nice and as expected.
    Then recocking the bolt, I only heard the spring release.

    Thank you, Professor Pellet, that was a very nice test.
    Okay!!! That's great.
    The reason for that test and the result tells me you probably don't need to reseal it.
    The main thing to realize is that resealing it will NOT increase the power.

    Since we know that let's focus on the pump cup.
    If it's not sealing completely as you pump it up air is escaping around the cup rather than being forced into the air chamber.
    This is a common problem. As they age they get stiff and don't seal like they should.
    You have several choices for repair. One thing would be to remove the pump arm and try cleaning the pump cup and the pump barrel, oil it up and reassemble and see it that helps.
    I'd suggest either ordering a new one or have it done for you. Baker Airguns or Pyramid Air both have the parts if you want to order them or they will repair it for you. I believe Baker does the whole reseal and pump works for about $60.
    If you want to try yourself you'll have to carefully remove the end cap and pump handle by knocking out the two roll pins or expanding pins. Obviously it can be tricky because you don't want to ding up the pellet gun.
    I used to use a 2x4 or 2x6 with a hole drilled to give the pins a place to drop. You'll need a pin punch to get them out. I have a small arbor press that works great.

    Keep me posted as to how things are going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminO View Post
    Glad you are feeling better. Stay that way!!
    Any old tin can will work. If a magnet sticks to it it's not aluminum.
    And yea I'd suggest about 25 to 30 feet with 3, then maybe 4 and then maybe 5 pumps to see if you notice any additional power as you increase the pumps.
    As far as scopes, I have been lucky to find (usually on ebay) the old vintage Weaver V22 scopes. I have several on different pellet guns and I love them.
    Once i find one accurate enough I will do the same. V22, huh. Got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminO View Post
    Okay!!! That's great.
    The reason for that test and the result tells me you probably don't need to reseal it.
    The main thing to realize is that resealing it will NOT increase the power.

    Since we know that let's focus on the pump cup.
    If it's not sealing completely as you pump it up air is escaping around the cup rather than being forced into the air chamber.
    This is a common problem. As they age they get stiff and don't seal like they should.
    You have several choices for repair. One thing would be to remove the pump arm and try cleaning the pump cup and the pump barrel, oil it up and reassemble and see it that helps.
    I'd suggest either ordering a new one or have it done for you. Baker Airguns or Pyramid Air both have the parts if you want to order them or they will repair it for you. I believe Baker does the whole reseal and pump works for about $60.
    If you want to try yourself you'll have to carefully remove the end cap and pump handle by knocking out the two roll pins or expanding pins. Obviously it can be tricky because you don't want to ding up the pellet gun.
    I used to use a 2x4 or 2x6 with a hole drilled to give the pins a place to drop. You'll need a pin punch to get them out. I have a small arbor press that works great.

    Keep me posted as to how things are going.
    Forget the cans. I am going to contact Baker Airguns. I have a nice box and lots of packing paper.

    Thank you for all the help. Dr. Who and yourself have been completely awesome.
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