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    Here appears to be the updated statute: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(iti...e=mcl-750-540e

    I can check tomorrow on Westlaw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Here appears to be the updated statute: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(iti...e=mcl-750-540e

    I can check tomorrow on Westlaw.

    A misdemeanor . (2) A person violating this section may be imprisoned for not more than 6 months or fined not more than $1,000.00, or both. An offense is committed under this section if the communication either originates or terminates in this state and may be prosecuted at the place of origination or termination.
    So, we'll see what happens. About that excessive bail? ( yes, I understand States have no such limitation) Ridiculous. Also, How about the apparent conflict of interest as it pertains to the judge. She's targeting a man for having something to say about her.
    Abuse of office.
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    It's fantastic that citizens have no safeguards or protections for our rights. We just have to hope that those in authority are honest and just. What a wonderful system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Here appears to be the updated statute: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(iti...e=mcl-750-540e

    I can check tomorrow on Westlaw.
    I suspect that they are relying on part (a) Threatening physical harm or damage to any person or property in the course of a conversation or message through the use of a telecommunications service or device.

    The defendant threatened to find and expose dirt on the judge/court i.e. “Dada back to digging and you best believe I’m gonna dig up all the skeletons in this court’s closet.”

    Of course I don't view that as threatening harm or damage. So unless there are more compelling threats, this is judicial overreach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    I suspect that they are relying on part (a) Threatening physical harm or damage to any person or property in the course of a conversation or message through the use of a telecommunications service or device.

    The defendant threatened to find and expose dirt on the judge/court i.e. “Dada back to digging and you best believe I’m gonna dig up all the skeletons in this court’s closet.”

    Of course I don't view that as threatening harm or damage. So unless there are more compelling threats, this is judicial overreach.
    But what's to stop judicial overreach? There are no actual checks on their power

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    But what's to stop judicial overreach? There are no actual checks on their power
    That is the role of defense counsel. Hopefully the defendant can afford competent counsel or some defense firm that is outraged by this offers their services pro bono. The prosecution has to reveal to the defense the basis for the charge. If that evidence is questionable, then the defense will challenge it, likely in the press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    This whole system is a $#@!ing joke. The criminals are the ones with power, holding the general public hostage
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    UPDATE:

    A Michigan Man Has Been Acquitted by a Jury for Criticizing a County Judge on Facebook
    It took a jury 26 minutes to decide that Jonathan Vanderhagen wasn't guilty.

    https://reason.com/2019/09/20/a-mich...e-on-facebook/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post

    Whatever you do, don't let a certain thin-skinned, orange-haired personality find out about this.
    Or a bubble-assed, fake blonde bubble ass.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our freedom and our society and our morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    How many posts does it normally take for one of the usual suspects to insert a "TDS"! into a thread about another gaffe or stupid lie by the Trumpster?
    Joe Biden can't speak English. He also didn't know his son was making millions in the Ukraine. He also said free say daycare would out 720 million women to work in a nation of 320 million.

    I'll match you Trump for Biden anytime.
    Last edited by Captdon; 09-23-2019 at 06:27 PM.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our freedom and our society and our morals.

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