Here is why I oppose new backgrounds check laws...AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN

[bulletbob]

I have been around guns my entire life never used one illegally am i to be penalized because a handfull do

[jet57]

There is too much of the devil in the details, and this is why I oppose them and urge those people in DC who never listen to me, to oppose them to.

WHY YOU SHOULD OPPOSE UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS

By Tara Mica, NRA-ILA State Director

Imagine being forced to pay fees as high as $50-$100, complete extensive federal paperwork, and obtain government approval before selling or loaning your personally-owned firearms to immediate or extended family members, longtime friends, neighbors, and co-workers, or fellow hunters, competitive shooters, and gun club members.
That's what so-called "universal background check" laws do. They turn traditional innocent conduct into a criminal offense. They target law-abiding gun owners and not criminals who, by their very definition, will violate new or expanded background check laws.

In their worst form, these laws mandate background checks on EVERY transfer, sale, purchase, trade, gift, rental, and loan of a firearm between any and all individuals. All such transactions would need to be conducted through a federally licensed firearms dealer because private individuals cannot access the national instant criminal background check system (NICS) system.

It is ALREADY a federal felony to be engaged in the business of buying and selling firearms, for livelihood and profit, without having a federal firearm dealers license.

It is ALREADY a crime for a federally licensed dealer to sell a gun without doing a background check - that's all dealers, everywhere, including at retail stores, gun shows, flea markets or anywhere else.

Further, it is ALREADY a federal felony for any private person to sell, trade, give, lend, rent or transfer a gun to a person you know or should have known is not legally allowed to own, purchase or possess a firearm. State law also provides penalties for similar unlawful conduct.

The penalty for selling a gun to a person who is a felon, mentally ill, mentally incompetent, a domestic abuser, or an alcohol or drug abuser is a 10-year federal felony. That's now, today, with no changes to the law.
It is even a federal felony to submit false information on a background check form to purchase a firearm.

According to a September 2018 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, 112,090 people were turned down for gun purchase in FY 2017, and there were 12 prosecutions by U.S. Attorneys Offices as of June 2018. Why, when criminals are caught in the act of lying on the form to illegally attempt to purchase a firearm, are they not prosecuted? Why, when existing background check laws are not being enforced, are there calls for expanding those laws to cover private firearms transactions?

Well number one, your posted "article" is not an article, so I think you copied and pasted stuff under their names... "A federal felony" is a dead give away there...

Secondly, if you loan your "gun" to a friend and he uses it to rat-a-tat-tat 40 people: it's your gun - you're responsible. Nobody has a "right to carry" your -gun.

If there weren't too many idiots with guns running the streets shooting 400 people at a time, we wouldn't have these problems. It's "the law abiding citizen" who has been angry for years and thought about shooting up the neighborhood - who decides today's the day! that is causing universal background checks and all the rules that follow...

[stjames1_53]

Well number one, your posted "article" is not an article, so I think you copied and pasted stuff under their names... "A federal felony" is a dead give away there...

Secondly, if you loan your "gun" to a friend and he uses it to rat-a-tat-tat 40 people: it's your gun - you're responsible. Nobody has a "right to carry" your -gun.

If there weren't too many idiots with guns running the streets shooting 400 people at a time, we wouldn't have these problems. It's "the law abiding citizen" who has been angry for years and thought about shooting up the neighborhood - who decides today's the day! that is causing universal background checks and all the rules that follow...

Then we won't loan guns to idiots like you...............I'd bet a dollar you've never even fired one.

If there weren't too many idiots with guns running the streets shooting 400 people at a time, we wouldn't have these problems.

How many? You make it sound like it happens everyday? Are you about ready to start shooting conservatives? Sounds like it to me.......

[Peter1469]

Well number one, your posted "article" is not an article, so I think you copied and pasted stuff under their names... "A federal felony" is a dead give away there...

Secondly, if you loan your "gun" to a friend and he uses it to rat-a-tat-tat 40 people: it's your gun - you're responsible. Nobody has a "right to carry" your -gun.

If there weren't too many idiots with guns running the streets shooting 400 people at a time, we wouldn't have these problems. It's "the law abiding citizen" who has been angry for years and thought about shooting up the neighborhood - who decides today's the day! that is causing universal background checks and all the rules that follow...

This sounds like delusional paranoia.

[Standing Wolf]

Well number one, your posted "article" is not an article, so I think you copied and pasted stuff under their names... "A federal felony" is a dead give away there...

Secondly, if you loan your "gun" to a friend and he uses it to rat-a-tat-tat 40 people: it's your gun - you're responsible. Nobody has a "right to carry" your -gun.

If there weren't too many idiots with guns running the streets shooting 400 people at a time, we wouldn't have these problems. It's "the law abiding citizen" who has been angry for years and thought about shooting up the neighborhood - who decides today's the day! that is causing universal background checks and all the rules that follow...

Jet, do me a favor...please? If you're going to post silly, off-topic nonsense on this forum, could you refrain from identifying your ideological stance on this or any other topic as "liberal"? No pun intended, but you're killing me here.

[jet57]

Jet, do me a favor...please? If you're going to post silly, off-topic nonsense on this forum, could you refrain from identifying your ideological stance on this or any other topic as "liberal"? No pun intended, but you're killing me here.

I have no idea what you're talking about: I answered the OP directly.

[jet57]

This sounds like delusional paranoia.

Looks like fact to me.

Prove it wrong.

[Agent Zero]

There is too much of the devil in the details, and this is why I oppose them and urge those people in DC who never listen to me, to oppose them to.

WHY YOU SHOULD OPPOSE UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS

By Tara Mica, NRA-ILA State Director

Imagine being forced to pay fees as high as $50-$100, complete extensive federal paperwork, and obtain government approval before selling or loaning your personally-owned firearms to immediate or extended family members, longtime friends, neighbors, and co-workers, or fellow hunters, competitive shooters, and gun club members.
That's what so-called "universal background check" laws do. They turn traditional innocent conduct into a criminal offense. They target law-abiding gun owners and not criminals who, by their very definition, will violate new or expanded background check laws.

In their worst form, these laws mandate background checks on EVERY transfer, sale, purchase, trade, gift, rental, and loan of a firearm between any and all individuals. All such transactions would need to be conducted through a federally licensed firearms dealer because private individuals cannot access the national instant criminal background check system (NICS) system.

It is ALREADY a federal felony to be engaged in the business of buying and selling firearms, for livelihood and profit, without having a federal firearm dealers license.

It is ALREADY a crime for a federally licensed dealer to sell a gun without doing a background check - that's all dealers, everywhere, including at retail stores, gun shows, flea markets or anywhere else.

Further, it is ALREADY a federal felony for any private person to sell, trade, give, lend, rent or transfer a gun to a person you know or should have known is not legally allowed to own, purchase or possess a firearm. State law also provides penalties for similar unlawful conduct.

The penalty for selling a gun to a person who is a felon, mentally ill, mentally incompetent, a domestic abuser, or an alcohol or drug abuser is a 10-year federal felony. That's now, today, with no changes to the law.
It is even a federal felony to submit false information on a background check form to purchase a firearm.

According to a September 2018 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, 112,090 people were turned down for gun purchase in FY 2017, and there were 12 prosecutions by U.S. Attorneys Offices as of June 2018. Why, when criminals are caught in the act of lying on the form to illegally attempt to purchase a firearm, are they not prosecuted? Why, when existing background check laws are not being enforced, are there calls for expanding those laws to cover private firearms transactions?

Sorry, Sarge. I stopped at the fees.

Everyone, from doctors to nurses to contractors to lawyers to you and I pay a fee for the privilege of doing our job safely. We expect our gun owners out there to handle their guns responsibly. That means don't lose them, don't let them get stolen, and if you think for some reason you can't do so turn it it. Don't wait until someone gets killed.

Did you know the second Texas killer bought his gun illegally from some goon who makes guns and sells them on the internet?

[Agent Zero]

And I sure as hell wouldn't take my advice from an NRA state director. Especially a lobbyist.

[Peter1469]

Looks like fact to me.

Prove it wrong.

I see no reason to engage in insanity.