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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    No, they aren't. Increased and improved monitoring lets us know about more of them, but in actual numbers, if there is any increase at all, it is statistically insignificant.

    NOAA and GFDL disagree with you.

    Existing records of past Atlantic tropical storm numbers (1878 to present) in fact do show a pronounced upward trend, correlated with rising SSTs (see Figs. 1 and 9 of Vecchi and Knutson 2008). However, the density of reporting ship traffic over the Atlantic was relatively sparse during the early decades of this record, such that if storms from the modern era (post 1965) had hypothetically occurred during those earlier decades, a substantial number would likely not have been directly observed by the ship-based “observing network of opportunity.” We find that, after adjusting for such an estimated number of missing storms, there is a small nominally positive upward trend in tropical storm occurrence from 1878-2006. But statistical tests reveal that this trend is so small, relative to the variability in the series, that it is not significantly distinguishable from zero (Figure 2). Thus the historical tropical storm count record does not provide compelling evidence for a greenhouse warming induced long-term increase.

    NOAA and GFDL research

    Correct! About the only increase seen, per the resident alarmist expert, is the number of category 4 and 5 striking the West Coast, and even that is subject to debate, for according to Thirty years of Atlantic hurricanes, around 2005 and even around the 1990s was worse that today for that particular narrow set of hurricanes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    That is the ideal, but we're not there yet.
    All it takes is a public law.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminO View Post
    My most vivid memories of storms in Phoenix (back in '76 & '77) were a giant dust storm and when it rained the streets became really slick. Almost like being on ice. Also the wash that ran through town was something to see before (stone dry) and during a rain event.
    One major problem is that it rains here so infrequently - we only seem to get a real toad-strangler once every few years - that the infrastructure is not up to dealing with it, and government doesn't consider it to be a priority. Something as simple as stop lights; even a moderate rain can screw up a good number of major intersections. And if it's really coming down, you get flooding on the highways. I'm not a transportation engineer, but I can't believe there's no fix for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    The problem is municipalities that knowingly approve residential development on flood plains. Greater New Orleans is a prime example. It's below sea level! Most people don't even know what a flood plain is. Residential construction in Florida for a very long time allowed the flimsiest attachments of roofs to homes. I don't know if it has improved, but I would suggest that most homes near the coast are not even close to being the right kind of construction for Cat 3 and up hurricanes.
    It is below sea level. Like 10 feet. Prior to Katrina, the buoy out next to Cuba read 67 feet.....headed right at New Orleans meaning 67 - -10 = 77 feet. And people still sat there. Didn't even take care of their animals nor themselves.

    So no doubt many don't know what a flood plain is, but New Orleans leaks thousands of gallons of water daily...on the driest of days! If you educated citizens what a flood plain is, do you think it would make a difference?

    I know people from Okracoke Island, NC. Anyone who has never been to Okracoke…..should go. It's simply a unique place on the planet, the ferry is free. The fishing outrageous. The people southern hospitality. But they didn't move for this hurricane, "God will see to us, Ransom."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    So that justifies federal relief?
    That is not what I was saying. I think that there needs to be some ownership on the parts of those municipal and state governments for what they did negligently allowed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    That's a nice straw man ya got there, you build it all by yourself?

    Nobody said hurricanes never existed before. They are happening with greater frequency.
    https://time.com/5594685/2019-hurricane-season/

    No, they are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    The States should be compelled to resolve their disaster problems themselves. Individuals decide where ethey will live. Individuals should bear the entire cost of rebuilding after a disaster. The State should pay for restoring infrastructure. The Federal government should play no financial role.
    I have insurance for a reason. I don't need federal help.
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