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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Grisham is an idiot and is despised by almost every Sheriff in New Mexico. In the last legislative session, she tried to push a whole herd of unconstitutional and unenforceable gun laws through the legislature. 30 of the 33 Sheriffs banded together to oppose those laws and she actually called the a "bunch of rogue" sheriffs.

    Grisham is trying to set herself up for a spot on the national political scene. She is so unpopular here that there has been much talk and research into whether a recall election could be held to remove her from office. Unfortunately, the state constitution prohibits that, so we are stuck with her until the next election. she is very likely to be one term Governor. Even many Democrats who supported her election the first time around would like to see her go.
    If her position is like any other governor, she can only act according to the direction of the state legislators. She cannot go rogue and sign such things as EO for your state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    If her position is like any other governor, she can only act according to the direction of the state legislators. She cannot go rogue and sign such things as EO for your state.
    New Mexico has been run by a Democrat legislature for years. We have had some good Republican Governors (Johnson and Martinez come to mind), but the Democrats have a firm hold on the Legislature. Grisham's anti-gun campaign came almost word for word from Bloomberg and the DNC. The only reason she wasn't able to pull it off was the campaign launched by the New Mexico Sheriff's Association and the fact that the citizenry stood with the Sheriffs instead of the Governor. Enough of the Legislators in the Round House knew they would out of a job after the next election if they went along with the Governor to keep all except one of the bills from being passed.

    29 of the 33 New Mexico counties declared themselves Second Amendment sanctuaries in public hearings and made it clear that the laws being pushed through the legislature would not be enforced in those counties. It was about as close to open revolt as you can get.
    Last edited by Cletus; 09-11-2019 at 10:51 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    New Mexico has been run by a Democrat legislature for years. We have had some good Republican Governors (Johnson and Martinez come to mind), but the Democrats have a firm hold on the Legislature. Grisham's anti-gun campaign came almost word for word from Bloomberg and the DNC. The only reason she wasn't able to pull it off was the campaign launched by the New Mexico Sheriff's Association and the fact that the citizenry stood with the Sheriffs instead of the Governor. Enough of the Legislators in the Round House knew they would out of a job after the next election if they went along with the Governor to keep all except one of the bills from being passed.

    29 of the 33 New Mexico counties declared themselves Second Amendment sanctuaries in public hearings and made it clear that the laws being pushed through the legislature would not be enforced in those counties. It was about as close to open revolt as you can get.
    the politicians that favor these moves are continuously isolating themselves from the voters
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    This may or may not be true but its certainly possible. The sci fi novel "Minority Report" addressed this very issue. Written in 1956 by Philip K. Dick it outlines how the police will be stopping crime by arresting people before they have a chance to actually commit the crime.

    So, even if,as Alexa insist, this is fake news there are no shortage of people willing to implement the program

    And one thing I have learned is that if something can be interpreted to include hairpins as weapons, for example, it will be if deemed necessary.
    If it's Alexa it is fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    Law enforcement to flag and spy on future criminals
    Posted on August 29, 2019 by Special To Personal Liberty

    The originally appeared at MassPrivatel on August 20, 2019.

    America’s fear of mass-shootings is about to take a truly bizarre turn. That’s because our law enforcement will soon be used as fortune tellers to spy on future criminals.
    How will law enforcement be used as fortune tellers?
    A recent Albuquerque Journal article revealed that law enforcement will flag people that they think might pose a potential risk.
    “Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham directed state Homeland Security and Emergency Management Secretary Jackie Lindsay to start enrolling all 33 county sheriffs in a data-sharing program so that individuals deemed a potential risk could be flagged and monitored.”
    What types of things could Americans do that law enforcement would consider threatening?
    Inside Sources revealed that police would be looking for “certain indicators.”
    State Police Chief Tim Johnson said, “I think it’s obviously important for all of the citizens of New Mexico to be on the lookout for certain indicators of these types of folks that would do this. And part of our job as government officials is to ensure that the citizens of the community understand what those indicators are so they can report them.”
    The Tampa Bay Times reports that police are looking for “certain critical threat indicators” on students social media posts and have even created their own FortifyFL app that allows anyone to secretly report suspicious behavior.
    What these “indicators” are is anyone’s guess.
    Johnson also said that it was “important for law enforcement and other social services to follow up on reports of possibly dangerous citizens” in the hopes of preventing acts of domestic terror.
    Law enforcement and other agencies are being encouraged to report on and flag anyone that they deem a “potential risk.”
    What could possibly go wrong?
    It was only a couple of months ago, when I warned people about the “Threat Assessment, Prevention and Safety Act” that basically allows law enforcement to label anyone a potential threat.
    “The TAPS Act would encourage law enforcement to give everyone a personal threat assessment (kids and adults) and single out those that they deem as future threats.”
    Police across the country are already using “red flag” laws to take weapons away from people they deem a potential threat. So why is Homeland Security creating a whole new class of suspicious people?
    Because the War on Terror constantly needs new enemies if it is to keep Americans living in fear.
    The Albuquerque Journal revealed how law enforcement plans to use the red flag bill to allow law enforcement and other agencies to give people secret threat ratings.
    “Sheriffs had been working with the Democratic sponsor of a proposed red flag bill toward a possible compromise. In its original form, the bill would have allowed courts to order the temporary taking of guns from someone deemed an immediate threat, “San Juan County Sheriff Shane Ferrari said.
    From Homeland Security spying on everyone’s social media posts to the FBI, it seems like no one is safe from Big Brother’s prying eyes.
    Reason.com warned that the FBI’s “red flag” social media spying tool is “a meme-illiterate Facebook-stalking precog from the Minority Report.”
    Reason also warned that spying on everyone’s social media posts could spiral out of control.
    “There are operations centers and watch floors, which monitor news and events to create reports for the relevant FBI team. These would spur the activation of fusion center, tactical teams which use early notification and accurate geo-locations. Which could allow law enforcement to target and even disenfranchise social media users whose posts may have been misinterpreted.”
    Placing people on a secret risk chart is a disaster waiting to happen, just ask those people on the no-fly list or terror watch list.
    There are no law enforcement risk rating charts yet.
    Based on DHS’s old risk advisory chart we could expect law enforcement to use something similar to Canada’s workplace risk assessment ratings chart:


    Canada’s workplace risk assessment ratings chart is a disturbing example of how DHS could give everyone a personal risk assessment.
    Asking law enforcement to guess who might become a criminal is at best fortune telling; and at worst, an excuse to incarcerate more people.

    — Mapi

    https://personalliberty.com/law-enfo...ure-criminals/

    The author is correct. How could this possibly go wrong..............

    The problem with "no reasonable expectation of privacy" is that as technology advances our privacy is tied to a diminishing expectation

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    The problem with "no reasonable expectation of privacy" is that as technology advances our privacy is tied to a diminishing expectation
    Pretty much. If you are not on your own property or in your vehicle you have no true privacy rights left.
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