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    Law enforcement to flag and spy on future criminals

    Law enforcement to flag and spy on future criminals
    Posted on August 29, 2019 by Special To Personal Liberty

    The originally appeared at MassPrivatel on August 20, 2019.

    America’s fear of mass-shootings is about to take a truly bizarre turn. That’s because our law enforcement will soon be used as fortune tellers to spy on future criminals.
    How will law enforcement be used as fortune tellers?
    A recent Albuquerque Journal article revealed that law enforcement will flag people that they think might pose a potential risk.
    “Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham directed state Homeland Security and Emergency Management Secretary Jackie Lindsay to start enrolling all 33 county sheriffs in a data-sharing program so that individuals deemed a potential risk could be flagged and monitored.”
    What types of things could Americans do that law enforcement would consider threatening?
    Inside Sources revealed that police would be looking for “certain indicators.”
    State Police Chief Tim Johnson said, “I think it’s obviously important for all of the citizens of New Mexico to be on the lookout for certain indicators of these types of folks that would do this. And part of our job as government officials is to ensure that the citizens of the community understand what those indicators are so they can report them.”
    The Tampa Bay Times reports that police are looking for “certain critical threat indicators” on students social media posts and have even created their own FortifyFL app that allows anyone to secretly report suspicious behavior.
    What these “indicators” are is anyone’s guess.
    Johnson also said that it was “important for law enforcement and other social services to follow up on reports of possibly dangerous citizens” in the hopes of preventing acts of domestic terror.
    Law enforcement and other agencies are being encouraged to report on and flag anyone that they deem a “potential risk.”
    What could possibly go wrong?
    It was only a couple of months ago, when I warned people about the “Threat Assessment, Prevention and Safety Act” that basically allows law enforcement to label anyone a potential threat.
    “The TAPS Act would encourage law enforcement to give everyone a personal threat assessment (kids and adults) and single out those that they deem as future threats.”
    Police across the country are already using “red flag” laws to take weapons away from people they deem a potential threat. So why is Homeland Security creating a whole new class of suspicious people?
    Because the War on Terror constantly needs new enemies if it is to keep Americans living in fear.
    The Albuquerque Journal revealed how law enforcement plans to use the red flag bill to allow law enforcement and other agencies to give people secret threat ratings.
    “Sheriffs had been working with the Democratic sponsor of a proposed red flag bill toward a possible compromise. In its original form, the bill would have allowed courts to order the temporary taking of guns from someone deemed an immediate threat, “San Juan County Sheriff Shane Ferrari said.
    From Homeland Security spying on everyone’s social media posts to the FBI, it seems like no one is safe from Big Brother’s prying eyes.
    Reason.com warned that the FBI’s “red flag” social media spying tool is “a meme-illiterate Facebook-stalking precog from the Minority Report.”
    Reason also warned that spying on everyone’s social media posts could spiral out of control.
    “There are operations centers and watch floors, which monitor news and events to create reports for the relevant FBI team. These would spur the activation of fusion center, tactical teams which use early notification and accurate geo-locations. Which could allow law enforcement to target and even disenfranchise social media users whose posts may have been misinterpreted.”
    Placing people on a secret risk chart is a disaster waiting to happen, just ask those people on the no-fly list or terror watch list.
    There are no law enforcement risk rating charts yet.
    Based on DHS’s old risk advisory chart we could expect law enforcement to use something similar to Canada’s workplace risk assessment ratings chart:


    Canada’s workplace risk assessment ratings chart is a disturbing example of how DHS could give everyone a personal risk assessment.
    Asking law enforcement to guess who might become a criminal is at best fortune telling; and at worst, an excuse to incarcerate more people.

    — Mapi

    https://personalliberty.com/law-enfo...ure-criminals/

    The author is correct. How could this possibly go wrong..............
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    Gore Vidal said it best...(paraphrased)

    " A war on terror is like a war on dandruff. it will be unending and forever ".

    TERRORIZING is one of the biggest catch-all charges you can make on anyone if you have nothing else to charge them with. it is very braod and general in its scope and not specific. Technically, all you have to do is make someone afraid and you are TERRORIZING them.

    Not even afraid for their life, just afraid.

    I can see in gun grabbing and hating states this becoming a huge issue, but then again, that is the way they like things to be where they are.

    ################################################## ##########

    Our new "terrorist"...A 19yo kid with a brick of .22 ammo....NEWS STORY...

    " A nineteen year old potential terrorist was arrested in his home today by law enforcement. He was in possession of three firearms. One a semi-automatic, and 500 rounds of ammunition". Que perp walk for the kid...

    THE FACTS....in some states in the northeast a "firearm" is defined as anything that launches a projectile. I kid you not. It is on the books in Rhode Island that way. So therefore his three "firearms" were a slingshot, a BB gun he got for his tenth birthday, and a tube fed semi-automatic .22.

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    This is how the media can spin things to make you look like Charles Manson.
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    They've been slowly implementing the means and ways they can connect the dots.
    I don't do Facebook. That is one of the primary sources for the "search."
    The catch is, I haven't used it for years for much of anything, but I still could be suspect by NOT using it..................catch 22
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    The Tampa Bay Times reports that police are looking for “certain critical threat indicators” on students social media posts and have even created their own FortifyFL app that allows anyone to secretly report suspicious behavior.
    ...

    They've got this wrapped up from the top to the bottom. They encourage anyone, starting from grade school programs to "inform" anything suspicious. Secretly and anonymously, of course. And the majority doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

    Face your accuser? Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
    Gore Vidal said it best...(paraphrased)

    " A war on terror is like a war on dandruff. it will be unending and forever ".

    TERRORIZING is one of the biggest catch-all charges you can make on anyone if you have nothing else to charge them with. it is very braod and general in its scope and not specific. Technically, all you have to do is make someone afraid and you are TERRORIZING them.

    Not even afraid for their life, just afraid.

    I can see in gun grabbing and hating states this becoming a huge issue, but then again, that is the way they like things to be where they are.

    ################################################## ##########

    Our new "terrorist"...A 19yo kid with a brick of .22 ammo....NEWS STORY...

    " A nineteen year old potential terrorist was arrested in his home today by law enforcement. He was in possession of three firearms. One a semi-automatic, and 500 rounds of ammunition". Que perp walk for the kid...

    THE FACTS....in some states in the northeast a "firearm" is defined as anything that launches a projectile. I kid you not. It is on the books in Rhode Island that way. So therefore his three "firearms" were a slingshot, a BB gun he got for his tenth birthday, and a tube fed semi-automatic .22.

    #############################################

    This is how the media can spin things to make you look like Charles Manson.
    It's stupid silly to lie about things that are easily fact checked.

    2012 Rhode Island General Laws
    Title 11 - Criminal Offenses
    Chapter 11-47 - Weapons
    Chapter 11-47-42 - Weapons other than firearms prohibited.



    Universal Citation: RI Gen L § 11-47-42 (2012)

    § 11-47-42 Weapons other than firearms prohibited.(a) No person shall carry or possess or attempt to use against another any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slingshot, billy, sandclub, sandbag, metal knuckles, slap glove, bludgeon, stun-gun, or the so called "Kung-Fu" weapons


    https://law.justia.com/codes/rhode-i...pter-11-47-42/


    What other *facts* will you attempt to perpetrate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    It's stupid silly to lie about things that are easily fact checked.



    https://law.justia.com/codes/rhode-i...pter-11-47-42/


    What other *facts* will you attempt to perpetrate?
    He said in "some" states and you pull RI out of your ass.................like that wins the debate..................lol and jus' damn
    In Ohio, you can get shot by a cop for carrying and air soft rifle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
    Gore Vidal said it best...(paraphrased)

    " A war on terror is like a war on dandruff. it will be unending and forever ".

    TERRORIZING is one of the biggest catch-all charges you can make on anyone if you have nothing else to charge them with. it is very braod and general in its scope and not specific. Technically, all you have to do is make someone afraid and you are TERRORIZING them.

    Not even afraid for their life, just afraid.

    I can see in gun grabbing and hating states this becoming a huge issue, but then again, that is the way they like things to be where they are.

    ################################################## ##########

    Our new "terrorist"...A 19yo kid with a brick of .22 ammo....NEWS STORY...

    " A nineteen year old potential terrorist was arrested in his home today by law enforcement. He was in possession of three firearms. One a semi-automatic, and 500 rounds of ammunition". Que perp walk for the kid...

    THE FACTS....in some states in the northeast a "firearm" is defined as anything that launches a projectile. I kid you not. It is on the books in Rhode Island that way. So therefore his three "firearms" were a slingshot, a BB gun he got for his tenth birthday, and a tube fed semi-automatic .22.

    #############################################

    This is how the media can spin things to make you look like Charles Manson.
    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    He said in "some" states and you pull RI out of your ass.................like that wins the debate..................lol and jus' damn
    In Ohio, you can get shot by a cop for carrying and air soft rifle
    Herp derp, lol and damn



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    This may or may not be true but its certainly possible. The sci fi novel "Minority Report" addressed this very issue. Written in 1956 by Philip K. Dick it outlines how the police will be stopping crime by arresting people before they have a chance to actually commit the crime.

    So, even if,as Alexa insist, this is fake news there are no shortage of people willing to implement the program

    And one thing I have learned is that if something can be interpreted to include hairpins as weapons, for example, it will be if deemed necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Herp derp, lol and damn


    buh bye
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    Grisham is an idiot and is despised by almost every Sheriff in New Mexico. In the last legislative session, she tried to push a whole herd of unconstitutional and unenforceable gun laws through the legislature. 30 of the 33 Sheriffs banded together to oppose those laws and she actually called them a "bunch of rogue" sheriffs.

    Grisham is trying to set herself up for a spot on the national political scene. She is so unpopular here that there has been much talk and research into whether a recall election could be held to remove her from office. Unfortunately, the state constitution prohibits that, so we are stuck with her until the next election. She is very likely to be a one term Governor. Even many Democrats who supported her election the first time around would like to see her go.
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