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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    The conspiracy theories aren’t credible. Complacency led to 9/11.
    Thank you for simply answering. I appreciate it.
    Tickling censorship with a feather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Yes you are and you're using a Syrian/Iranian shill to do it.
    Hmm. What evidence in my posts led you to that erroneous conclusion?
    Tickling censorship with a feather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    Why? I'm not making a claim and using a source to back it up. I'm simply relating that people have questions. My initial post was just a query as to what people thought about it.
    I don't understand how WTC7 came down, but I am not a structural engineer. I do understand that impacts can weaken foundations. What I don't believe is that any Americans plotted to take down WTC7. An inside job that like would have been determined very quickly -- but we've had investigations and they've found nothing untoward.

    It was a sad day to be sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    I have to agree that this type of discussion on THIS day is inappropriate. Best to let it drop.
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    Nope. I want someone to lay out for me what is inappropriate about it. Stating that questions are disrespectful or inappropriate doesn't make it so.
    It is not disrespectful to discuss this topic today. If anything, this is perfect day to discuss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/americ...idence/261744/


    In the post-9/11 world, those who have made such claims, no matter how well-grounded their claims may be, have often been derided and attacked as “conspiracy theorists” for questioning the official claims that the three World Trade Center buildings that collapsed on September 11 did so for any reason other than being struck by planes and from the resulting fires. Yet, it is much more difficult to launch these same attacks against members of a fire department that lost a fireman on September 11 and many of whose members were involved with the rescue efforts of that day, some of whom still suffer from chronic illnesses as a result.
    I don't apologize for not believing the gov version. Too many things didn't add up. I don't care what people say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    Hmm. What evidence in my posts led you to that erroneous conclusion?
    The fact that you cited a Syrian/Iranian shill in order to further an argument against the point that was made which is it's useless to talk about.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    I don't apologize for not believing the gov version. Too many things didn't add up. I don't care what people say.
    Typical conspiracy theorist kook. Believe it because it feels good even in the face of the facts that have been showered upon you from multiple sources separate and independent sources.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    There is nothing about the government version one should disbelieve. They were up front about the complacency and the compartmentalism of competing intelligence agencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Actually, a common topic of discussion is about whether FDR manipulated the Japanese into attacking. So yes, we do.




    Not whether it happened, but there is a lot of discussion about how much impact it had on the German war machine and whether it actually contributed as much to the defeat of Germany as most think.
    On the other hand, you, I and others here have been involved in discussions that arose on patriotic holidays like Memorial Day and Veteran's Day, and inevitably someone - usually, it's just one person, for some reason - will want to interject an often vitriolic commentary on the injustice of America's wars, the glorification of the military, etc. In other words, taking advantage of what ought to be a day of remembrance and perhaps mourning by turning it into an occasion for political and ideological sparring. I see Helena's OP as just another example of that sort of thing, and I stand by my assessment of it as being inappropriate for the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    On the other hand, you, I and others here have been involved in discussions that arose on patriotic holidays like Memorial Day and Veteran's Day, and inevitably someone - usually, it's just one person, for some reason - will want to interject an often vitriolic commentary on the injustice of America's wars, the glorification of the military, etc. In other words, taking advantage of what ought to be a day of remembrance and perhaps mourning by turning it into an occasion for political and ideological sparring. I see Helena's OP as just another example of that sort of thing, and I stand by my assessment of it as being inappropriate for the day.
    That was me who posted the comment in the veterans day thread that was blown out of proportion. I didn't post it for the reasons you are stating. If we cant honor veterans by vowing to end the wars that take their lives then how can we honor them? It is not a day to glorify their deaths, and by proxy glorify war. It is a day to truly honor them. How best can we truly honor their senseless deaths than by working to find ways to prevent any more?

    I see Helena's thread as an honest discussion at an appropriate time. When the heck else is it the right time?
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