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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    They place those as a part of the price for you too.
    Then don't buy a new car. Buy a nice used car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Well, from one of your links:
    "However, U.S. automakers contend that without a substantial increase in fuel efficiency, their vehicles will be less competitive globally, which could potentially result in job losses".


    I believe that I already made this point. Furthermore, automakers can simply choose to continue increasing fuel efficiency to remain competitive. The only issue is the optics and politics of not choosing to make cheaper, less fuel efficient vehicles.

    "“California won’t ever wait for permission from Washington to protect the health and safety of children and families,” said Newsom, a Democrat.The deal struck in July between California and four of the world’s largest automakers — Ford, Honda, BMW and Volkswagen — bypassed the Trump administration’s plan to freeze emissions and fuel economy standards adopted under Obama at 2021 levels.The four automakers agreed with California to reduce emissions by 3.7% per year starting with the 2022 model year, through 2026."

    So all of this hue and cry appears to be moot from a practical point of view. The automakers have already made the decision to remain competitive. Trump cannot force them to produce less fuel efficient vehicles.
    That isn't the point. You favor allowing California set the price for other states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    That isn't the point. You favor allowing California set the price for other states.
    That's not the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    That isn't the point. You favor allowing California set the price for other states.
    No, I favor allowing California to advocate for their own population.
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    Californians will pay for the modifications to cars specifically designed for their market.

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    And I don't advocate for the rest of the 49 States in the nation paying for Cali's politician decisions.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    No, I favor allowing California to advocate for their own population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Your last sentence is exactly what I am talking about. States rights for abortion policy or LGBTQ policy etc. How is Californias desire to regulate auto emissions any different.
    Bottom line, states have ZERO power to influence their own destinies when it becomes politically incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason10 View Post
    Bottom line, states have ZERO power to influence their own destinies when it becomes politically incorrect.

    State;'s having too little power is why I no longer use terms like "Union of States" or even "United states" . We have become just another federally dominated nation swimming in the seven seas of a world full of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    No, I favor allowing California to advocate for their own population.
    Just, I suppose, as you'd advocate for each state deciding their own abortion laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I have already posted on this. Rand Paul is one of the blame America first people. In my opinion he is a Code Pink Republican.
    What is a Code Pink Republican? I've not heard that term.
    One can be sure that he who says he knows knows nothing

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