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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    See how the left works. They present a false assertion then claim that they have exposed a hypocrisy.
    Where is the false assertion? You have a POTUS who is the leader of the Republican party doing this. It just happened, so we'll see if the principled conservatives out there object.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    And here I though conservatives were all about the Republic and States Rights. Guess it depends.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/polit...nia/index.html
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    Conservatives in America are frauds.

    Try not to let it destroy your belief in your fellow man.

    Given the title to the article, "Trump revokes waiver for California to set higher auto emissions standards," the only "fraud" here is misrepresenting conservatives and state's right with Trump. Trump is not a conservative. Pick your targets better.
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    There is no reason for a Conservative to object.

    It is an interstate commerce issue which makes it a legitimate area of concern for the Feds.
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Given the title to the article, "Trump revokes waiver for California to set higher auto emissions standards," the only "fraud" here is misrepresenting conservatives and state's right with Trump. Trump is not a conservative. Pick your targets better.
    Perhaps. The question is what do Conservatives think of this. The Competitive Enterprise Institute for instance is all for this move. Hmmmm……...
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    He's not a conservative.

    All the cons who defend him have assured me of that.
    My, you've learned something on the Interweb. Pat yourself on the back.
    Last edited by Chris; 09-18-2019 at 12:23 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Of course they won't.

    In their *minds*, owning the libs is all that matters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I'm sure you'll let us know who you're talking about as soon as you figure it out.

    I think maybe she's referring to how Trump has stolen liberal thunder by standing up for the forgotten little man they once claimed but have now turned against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    There is no reason for a Conservative to object.

    It is an interstate commerce issue which makes it a legitimate area of concern for the Feds.

    Well, then, it is a federal issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Perhaps. The question is what do Conservatives think of this. The Competitive Enterprise Institute for instance is all for this move. Hmmmm……...
    You'll need to look into the details of CA's regulation, commerce clause, and why CEI agrees with Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Yet he is the leader of the Republican Party. Last time I checked that's where most conservatives hang their hats. In retrospect perhaps I should have said Republicans.
    Go easy on them. They LOVE to paint the "libs" brush on all democrats and even independents but god forbid someone do the same to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Perhaps. The question is what do Conservatives think of this. The Competitive Enterprise Institute for instance is all for this move. Hmmmm……...
    We embrace federalism and the role of the states, but federalism does not mean that one state can dictate standards for the nation," EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler said during a speech ahead of the move Tuesday.


    "To borrow from Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry, CAFE does not stand for California Assumes Federal Empowerment. So we will be moving forward with one national standard very soon. We will be taking joint action with the Department of Transportation to bring clarity to the proper – and improper – scope and use of the Clean Air Act preemption waiver, he continued. "Our actions will not impact California’s health-based standards and programs. California will be able to keep in place and enforce programs to address smog and other forms of air pollution caused by motor vehicles. This will allow the State to redouble its efforts to address its air quality problems and finally achieve compliance with EPA’s National Ambient Air Quality Standards." …..snip~



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