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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    After ww2 if we had made no moves for alliances or sought treaties with any other country? We are so involved all over the globe but what if we had pursued a course of "arms distance" relationships instead of embracing those involvements? It's just a thought and I'm not suggesting it would have been a good idea. I just question what our state would be with much less involvement.
    The Soviet Union would have owned all of Europe. Think about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    The Soviet Union would have owned all of Europe. Think about that.
    I'm not so sure about that. It took the full might of the soviet army to defeat Poland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    After ww2 if we had made no moves for alliances or sought treaties with any other country? We are so involved all over the globe but what if we had pursued a course of "arms distance" relationships instead of embracing those involvements? It's just a thought and I'm not suggesting it would have been a good idea. I just question what our state would be with much less involvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    After ww2 if we had made no moves for alliances or sought treaties with any other country? We are so involved all over the globe but what if we had pursued a course of "arms distance" relationships instead of embracing those involvements? It's just a thought and I'm not suggesting it would have been a good idea. I just question what our state would be with much less involvement.

    Well we'd of had to learn to produce our own daily staples like energy and probably never $#@!ed with the ME as much. No cold war, less money in the DOD but enough to make us univadable, September 11th would be just another day and my neighbor's son along with many other people's children would still be alive. And that's for starters. We might not be quite as rich, especially the super rich because we would not be in the resource theft business

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    I'm not so sure about that. It took the full might of the soviet army to defeat Poland.
    Do you really believe that? They waited until the Germans killed all the democracy advocates and then stormed through Poland. They would have beaten the Germans without our troops. They would have owned Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Do you really believe that? They waited until the Germans killed all the democracy advocates and then stormed through Poland. They would have beaten the Germans without our troops. They would have owned Europe.
    They guess you don't know what I was referring to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    WWII dramatically changed the world and it changed the US's role world wide. The US became the most influential nation on the planet after WWII. The US economy dominates over all others since then. We could not just withdraw and basically pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist.
    We could:
    1) Produce our own daily staple needs like a truly independent state
    2) Trade fairly without threat of military force for non staples coming in and even for staples going out.
    2) Stop playing world police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    We could:
    1) Produce our own daily staple needs like a truly independent state
    2) Trade fairly without threat of military force for non staples coming in and even for staples going out.
    2) Stop playing world police.
    We can not withdraw from the rest of the world in a geopolitical sense. That would lead to disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    WWII dramatically changed the world and it changed the US's role world wide. The US became the most influential nation on the planet after WWII. The US economy dominates over all others since then. We could not just withdraw and basically pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist.
    Tall is right .I have studied the effects of ww2 its effects on the world were dramitic.
    As the japenese admiral said I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant. Ww2 did in fact do that .while much of the industrialized world was laid to waste it resulted in the usa having a strong mechanized industral base superior to the entire world due to not only intivation but due to most of the modern world destroying its base.
    This thrust up into a huge economic powerhouse flush with money and resulted in us being thurst into world politics and negotiations as every one wanted something from us.
    We made mistakes and should of listened to men like patton and crippled the russian and chinese communist when we could of.
    They represent the biggest dangers to mankind to this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    The Soviet Union would have owned all of Europe. Think about that.

    Really? How would they have held, controlled and governed such an area with so many people and potential points of resistance?

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