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    ‘Non-Binary’ Nonsense .....

    This week Merriam-Webster added a “non-binary” definition of “they” to the dictionary to cater to individuals who identify as neither male nor female. Also this week, National Review’s Douglas Murray went on BBC Radio 4 to promote his new book The Madness of Crowds. During the interview, Douglas said “I don’t think there is any such thing as non-binary. And I think a lot of people know that too.”


    The journalist Afua Hirsch disagreed. She said that Douglas’s criticism of the pop singer Sam Smith, for his recent announcement that he is non-binary and now prefers “they/them” pronouns, was akin to bullying. Smith is simply “somebody who is making an expression of his identity,” Hirsch said.....snip~






    https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...nary-nonsense/



    Merriam-Webster Redefines ‘They’ to Include a Non-Binary …
    https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/michael-foust/merriam-webster...
    2 days ago · The dictionary that traces its roots to 19th-century author and lexicographer Noah Webster now says “they” can refer to one person – instead of only multiple people, as previously defined. Merriam-Webster said this week an additional definition had been added to the word “they” in reference to non-binary



    This is some ridiculous BS. They, them and theirs are pronouns. Meaning Plural. Not singular. These people that believe they are non binary are mental cases. There is a simple solution.

    Directions for the lefties. Take off Under-garments. Then most importantly. Look Down at your anatomy shouldn't be that difficult for even your kind to figure out.
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    What is nonsense - and ignorant nonsense at that - is the idea that this is somehow a new way to use the word "they".

    Have you ever, in writing, used the word "they" to describe someone when their sex was unknown or irrelevant to the statement? Of course you have - people have been doing it since at least the Middle Ages.

    This chameleon word is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries. Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s, they has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun, a word that was substituted in place of either he (a masculine singular pronoun) or she (a feminine singular pronoun), e.g., Each student should get their supplies ready for class.Each student is singular, but we don’t know (or need to know) the gender/sex identity of each student in this situation, so their is perfectly handy. Even Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other beloved writers of the English literary canon used singular they.

    https://www.dictionary.com/e/they-is...gular-pronoun/

    Long before the use of generic he was condemned as sexist, the pronouns they,their, and them were used in educated speech and in all but the most formal writing to refer to singular indefinite pronouns or singular nouns of general personal reference (which are often not felt to be exclusively singular): If anyone calls, tell them I'll be back soon. A parent should read to their child. Such use is not a recent development, nor is it a mark of ignorance. Shakespeare, Swift, Shelley, Scott, and Dickens, as well as many other English and American writers, have used they and its related case forms to refer to singular antecedents.

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/they


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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    What is nonsense - and ignorant nonsense at that - is the idea that this is somehow a new way to use the word "they".

    Have you ever, in writing, used the word "they" to describe someone when their sex was unknown or irrelevant to the statement? Of course you have - people have been doing it since at least the Middle Ages.

    This chameleon word is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries. Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s, they has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun, a word that was substituted in place of either he (a masculine singular pronoun) or she (a feminine singular pronoun), e.g., Each student should get their supplies ready for class.Each student is singular, but we don’t know (or need to know) the gender/sex identity of each student in this situation, so their is perfectly handy. Even Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other beloved writers of the English literary canon used singular they.

    https://www.dictionary.com/e/they-is...gular-pronoun/

    Long before the use of generic he was condemned as sexist, the pronouns they,their, and them were used in educated speech and in all but the most formal writing to refer to singular indefinite pronouns or singular nouns of general personal reference (which are often not felt to be exclusively singular): If anyone calls, tell them I'll be back soon. A parent should read to their child. Such use is not a recent development, nor is it a mark of ignorance. Shakespeare, Swift, Shelley, Scott, and Dickens, as well as many other English and American writers, have used they and its related case forms to refer to singular antecedents.

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/they


    Colloquially, that may be true, although it would be more grammatically correct to use the word "it," unless the non-binary people claim to identify as multiple people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    Colloquially, that may be true, although it would be more grammatically correct to use the word "it," unless the non-binary people claim to identify as multiple people.
    If you think about it honestly for two minutes, you can think of multiple ways in which one person is referred to as "they" in common usage. There are just so many times you can use "he or she" in a paragraph before it begins to sound retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    If you think about it honestly for two minutes, you can think of multiple ways in which one person is referred to as "they" in common usage. There are just so many times you can use "he or she" in a paragraph before it begins to sound retarded.
    Sure, but you'll notice that the ways in which it was used before usually involved a vague concept of a generic person that could be male or female. Previous contexts did not use "they" in the sense of someone literally believing him or herself to be of neither gender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    Sure, but you'll notice that the ways in which it was used before usually involved a vague concept of a generic person that could be male or female. Previous contexts did not use "they" in the sense of someone literally believing him or herself to be of neither gender.
    Not unless they claimed to have multiple personalities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    What is nonsense - and ignorant nonsense at that - is the idea that this is somehow a new way to use the word "they".

    Have you ever, in writing, used the word "they" to describe someone when their sex was unknown or irrelevant to the statement? Of course you have - people have been doing it since at least the Middle Ages.

    This chameleon word is also a singular pronoun, and it has been for centuries. Lexicographers have determined that as far back as the 1300s, they has been used as a gender-neutral pronoun, a word that was substituted in place of either he (a masculine singular pronoun) or she (a feminine singular pronoun), e.g., Each student should get their supplies ready for class.Each student is singular, but we don’t know (or need to know) the gender/sex identity of each student in this situation, so their is perfectly handy. Even Chaucer, Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and other beloved writers of the English literary canon used singular they.

    https://www.dictionary.com/e/they-is...gular-pronoun/

    Long before the use of generic he was condemned as sexist, the pronouns they,their, and them were used in educated speech and in all but the most formal writing to refer to singular indefinite pronouns or singular nouns of general personal reference (which are often not felt to be exclusively singular): If anyone calls, tell them I'll be back soon. A parent should read to their child. Such use is not a recent development, nor is it a mark of ignorance. Shakespeare, Swift, Shelley, Scott, and Dickens, as well as many other English and American writers, have used they and its related case forms to refer to singular antecedents.

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/they


    English comes from German and Dutch Language along with the French. They did not use they to describe a single person. Nor them.

    They and them to describe an IT.....is grammatically incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    If you think about it honestly for two minutes, you can think of multiple ways in which one person is referred to as "they" in common usage. There are just so many times you can use "he or she" in a paragraph before it begins to sound retarded.
    If you thought about it honestly then you'd admit older uses of they did not include contemporary, retarded, identitarian meanings.
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