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Thread: Dems Sit in Silence as Witness Debunks Their 'Assault' Rifle Lies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    I didn't hear a single "dishonest fact" in the young lady's entire presentation. Arguing against legal firearms ownership in the U.S. is a total non-starter, Zero, and always will be. Those who claim that "all liberals" are in favor of such extreme measures have those false claims supported by posts like yours, and that's a shame. As one of those (as anti-gun activists would have it) "unicorns" who have actually stopped a crime against themselves by brandishing a gun, I can testify that I'm very glad it was there when I needed it. I strongly suspect that very few if any of the millions (or whatever the number might be) of others who've had that experience would willingly go back in time and do it again unarmed.
    “Dishonest” has different meanings, in this case “dishonest” means claims made based upon a lack of corroborating evidence; as in what would the claim look like if the military, police, et al be taken out of the equation?

    The facts prove that few gun crimes are solved as a result of firing a weapon. Most statistics show that the eventual victim is normally someone known by the shooter. Like a friend, loved one, or family member.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Defensive gun use is so rare, it's captured on video all the time.
    Thank you for inadvertently supporting my premise while trying to disprove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    Thank you for inadvertently supporting my premise while trying to disprove it.
    I didn't support your premise, I refuted it.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    “Dishonest” has different meanings, in this case “dishonest” means claims made based upon a lack of corroborating evidence; as in what would the claim look like if the military, police, et al be taken out of the equation?

    The facts prove that few gun crimes are solved as a result of firing a weapon. Most statistics show that the eventual victim is normally someone known by the shooter. Like a friend, loved one, or family member.
    The testimony presented factual data as evidence.

    You have presented nothing. Sure, you claim facts, but where are the studies that provide those facts?

    And once you provide sources, what relevance do your facts have with the OP points?
    Last edited by Chris; 10-06-2019 at 02:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    The facts prove that few gun crimes are solved as a result of firing a weapon.
    Most defensive use of a firearm never involve firing a shot. Being armed and showing resolve and the willingness to fire a shot if necessary most often make actually shooting unnecessary.
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Nice bit of ad hom to back up an accusation, and nothing else.
    That's where you go when the facts don't support your view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    ...The facts prove that few gun crimes are solved as a result of firing a weapon...
    So, often just the presence alone is enough, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    So, often just the presence alone is enough, huh?
    A fifty cent sticker on the front window is just as effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    “Dishonest” has different meanings, in this case “dishonest” means claims made based upon a lack of corroborating evidence; as in what would the claim look like if the military, police, et al be taken out of the equation?

    The facts prove that few gun crimes are solved as a result of firing a weapon. Most statistics show that the eventual victim is normally someone known by the shooter. Like a friend, loved one, or family member.
    Thirty, maybe even twenty years ago, that may have been true, but from what I have read the incidence of murder by stranger has surpassed and now outweighs the killing by a loved one or acquaintance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    A fifty cent sticker on the front window is just as effective.
    Is there a point to made there?

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