Climate Change Runs Up Against Green Fatigue

[Chris]

Yuk yuk yuk.

But such coordination requires collective central planning, and as a free marketeer I'm against it.

[Pete7469]

Yuk yuk yuk.

But such coordination requires collective central planning, and as a free marketeer I'm against it.

Not really, it requires little to no capital investment, the plan is already in place and it's not compulsory. You're free to participate or not. I just encourage people who believe that way to join the endeavor.

Think of it on the same level as Al Gore's cult, except that I don't earn a penny. In fact we all would end up keeping a lot more of our own money.

[Cigar]

Spring is in The Air

Canada's Arctic glaciers headed for unstoppable thaw

Canadian glaciers that are the world's third biggest store of ice after Antarctica and Greenland seem headed for an irreversible melt that will push up sea levels, scientists said on Thursday.

About 20 percent of the ice in glaciers, on islands such as Ellesmere or Devon off northern Canada, could vanish by the end of the 21st century in a melt that would add 3.5 cm (1.4 inch) to global sea levels, they said.

"We believe that the mass loss is irreversible in the foreseeable future" assuming continued climate change, the scientists, based in the Netherlands and the United States, wrote in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.

Lead author Jan Lenaerts of the University of Utrecht told Reuters that the trend seemed unstoppable because a thaw of white glaciers would expose dark-colored tundra that would soak up more of the sun's heat and further accelerate the melt.

More: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...92613N20130307


Naaaaaaaaaa it's normal

[Chris]

Spring is in The Air

Canada's Arctic glaciers headed for unstoppable thaw

Canadian glaciers that are the world's third biggest store of ice after Antarctica and Greenland seem headed for an irreversible melt that will push up sea levels, scientists said on Thursday.

About 20 percent of the ice in glaciers, on islands such as Ellesmere or Devon off northern Canada, could vanish by the end of the 21st century in a melt that would add 3.5 cm (1.4 inch) to global sea levels, they said.

"We believe that the mass loss is irreversible in the foreseeable future" assuming continued climate change, the scientists, based in the Netherlands and the United States, wrote in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.

Lead author Jan Lenaerts of the University of Utrecht told Reuters that the trend seemed unstoppable because a thaw of white glaciers would expose dark-colored tundra that would soak up more of the sun's heat and further accelerate the melt.

More: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...92613N20130307


Naaaaaaaaaa it's normal

[jes'fuchinwitcha]

I am a reviewer for the DOE Small Business Innovation and Research grant program (SBIR) specializing in community connected biomass/biochar energy R&D in the private sector. I have been assigned three proposals to review in detail by the 10th and I just finished reading the first one, which I like very much.

In a nutshell, the proponent plans to utilize waste biomass from logging (slash - waste biomass accounts for about half of all of the material that goes into producing the lumber you buy at stores). The project is to turn that waste into biochar and liquid fuels through a pyrolysis process, which in itself is not a new technology. The key to the importance of the proposal is that the company has designed into its commercialization plan a consideration of the practical resource base for the production facility, the associated appropriate related scale for production, and identifies its market as the region in which it is to be produced (for both a biochar and "drop-in" replacement fuel for fossil oil and gas).

We're talking carbon negative/revenue positive energy from waste materials here, at cost competitive pricing.

Any questions about the potential for green energy?

[MisterVeritis]

I am a reviewer for the DOE Small Business Innovation and Research grant program (SBIR) specializing in community connected biomass/biochar energy R&D in the private sector. I have been assigned three proposals to review in detail by the 10th and I just finished reading the first one, which I like very much.

In a nutshell, the proponent plans to utilize waste biomass from logging (slash - waste biomass accounts for about half of all of the material that goes into producing the lumber you buy at stores). The project is to turn that waste into biochar and liquid fuels through a pyrolysis process, which in itself is not a new technology. The key to the importance of the proposal is that the company has designed into its commercialization plan a consideration of the practical resource base for the production facility, the associated appropriate related scale for production, and identifies its market as the region in which it is to be produced (for both a biochar and "drop-in" replacement fuel for fossil oil and gas.

We're talking carbon negative/revenue positive energy from waste materials here, at cost competitive pricing.

Any questions about the potential for green energy?

The only so-called green energy isn't green. It is nuclear. Boutique solutions are not solutions. Give all federal lands to the States and let's return to energy dominance in the US.

[Peter1469]

I am a reviewer for the DOE Small Business Innovation and Research grant program (SBIR) specializing in community connected biomass/biochar energy R&D in the private sector. I have been assigned three proposals to review in detail by the 10th and I just finished reading the first one, which I like very much.

In a nutshell, the proponent plans to utilize waste biomass from logging (slash - waste biomass accounts for about half of all of the material that goes into producing the lumber you buy at stores). The project is to turn that waste into biochar and liquid fuels through a pyrolysis process, which in itself is not a new technology. The key to the importance of the proposal is that the company has designed into its commercialization plan a consideration of the practical resource base for the production facility, the associated appropriate related scale for production, and identifies its market as the region in which it is to be produced (for both a biochar and "drop-in" replacement fuel for fossil oil and gas).

We're talking carbon negative/revenue positive energy from waste materials here, at cost competitive pricing.

Any questions about the potential for green energy?

That makes sense so long as that product isn't mandatory for use or what it is intended to replace isn't outlawed. The current war on fossil fuels doesn't.

[Collateral Damage]

That makes sense so long as that product isn't mandatory for use or what it is intended to replace isn't outlawed. The current war on fossil fuels doesn't.

That ^^^^^ right there.

The shortsightedness of most pro 'green' groups doesn't take into account those who are outside of the practical range of what is being demanded, and sometimes mandated. Eliminating alternatives, which includes pricing them to harmful, unstable and unsustainable levels, is contrary to a free market.

Promoting based on merit, pricing based on self-sustainability (no government subsidies), as alternatives to existing energy sources is the way to go. 'Green Fatigue' is a massive understatement.