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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Of course you would cite the Commerce Clause. Ever two bit wanna be dictator politician who wants to strip the citizenry of their inherent rights cites the Commerce Clause.

    It give the Feds no such power as you claim. You really need to do better than that.
    Well Cletus, we'll both just have to agree to disagree I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    Okay, it's preposterous but that's my take on it.
    Explain how your take makes any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Explain how your take makes any sense.
    As I explained in an earlier post, without money there can be no commerce. Salaries (money) are a part of commerce like it or not.
    God Bless America, God Bless our Military and God Bless the Police who defended the country against the insurgents on January 6, 2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    Article I, section 8
    You err. Try to be specific. Quote to me the words that allow the federal government to set wages in the private sector.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Originally Posted by MisterVeritis
    For a moment let's get back to first principles. By what authority does the federal government set wages?
    Quote Originally Posted by Reason10 View Post
    Actually, during World War Two, the government DID set a maximum wage, preventing companies from paying more than the limit to attract employees. That's when companies began offering health insurance benefits, around the 40s.

    The minimum wage and the 40 hour work week laws came from the 1929 Socialist Platform.
    I am aware the federal government routinely violates the Constitution. That was my point. The judiciary, after FDR's counter-revolution that started in 1936 no longer defends the Constitution. It yields to statism. That is why we are descending into serfdom unless we fight.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason10 View Post
    The answer is, ZERO. There is NOTHING in the Constitution that sets private sector wages.
    Thing is, the Constitution is not the only laws in America.

    There is the US Code, which is kind of the national statutes. (Every state has its own constitution and it's own statutes.)

    And of course, EVERY judicial opinion out there counts as law. Whenever a judge makes a ruling, THAT'S A LAW.



    Attachment 27211





    These are all LAWS. (And you wonder why it takes so long to get a law degree.)
    Reasoning like yours is why we cannot have nice things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    As I explained in an earlier post, without money there can be no commerce. Salaries (money) are a part of commerce like it or not.
    This is simply goofy. You have the heart of a tyrant.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    The Federal Gov't Dept of Education is a failure, has been for 5 decades. The Federal Dept of Education no longer promotes higher education, in fact under democrat rule it discourages educating the youth of this nation. The Dept of Education is nothing more than a public pension plan for incompetent teachers and administrators. If you don't believe me, just go look up where the US stands compared to other countries on education performance.

    The problem is not whether an education is free or not, the issue is teachers who suck.




    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    As I explained in an earlier post, without money there can be no commerce. Salaries (money) are a part of commerce like it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Of course you would cite the Commerce Clause. Ever two bit wanna be dictator politician who wants to strip the citizenry of their inherent rights cites the Commerce Clause.

    It give the Feds no such power as you claim. You really need to do better than that.
    The Commerce Clause was a shield and not a sword until FDR. From 1936 to 1995 the Congress abused the Commerce Clause and justified unjustifiable legislation with it. Then in United States v. Lopez SCOTUS warned Congress that the Commerce Clause does not allow the federal government to make a law that says areas near schools are gun free zones- the purpose of the law has nothing whatsoever to do with the Congressional power under the Commerce Clause. We saw this principle upheld in the first Obama Care cases- which was powerful, because the leftists on the Court signed onto the majority decision. If this case law stands, the United States has a chances to continue.
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    Amazon is interstate commerce.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The Commerce Clause was a shield and not a sword until FDR. From 1936 to 1995 the Congress abused the Commerce Clause and justified unjustifiable legislation with it. Then in United States v. Lopez SCOTUS warned Congress that the Commerce Clause does not allow the federal government to make a law that says areas near schools are gun free zones- the purpose of the law has nothing whatsoever to do with the Congressional power under the Commerce Clause. We saw this principle upheld in the first Obama Care cases- which was powerful, because the leftists on the Court signed onto the majority decision. If this case law stands, the United States has a chances to continue.

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