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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    First of all, why do you find it necessary to insult a large portion of the human race by implying that belief in a Supreme Being is superstitious? ....
    Do you consider a belief in ghostly spirits and Ouija boards to be a superstition?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    You cannot logically connect a refusal to buy the Old Man in the Sky superstition with patriotism, an acknowledgment of civic responsibilities or self esteem. How many of that 84% of older Americans "identify as Christians" in exactly the same way as they would "identify" as Irish-Americans, or as Dodgers fans...and couldn't tell you where the nearest church is from their house if you held a gun to their head?

    Do you mean the Old Strawman in the Sky superstition?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Do you consider a belief in ghostly spirits and Ouija boards to be a superstition?
    Why are you equating this with Christianity? Christianity has nothing to do with Ouija boards, which is actually a form of witchcraft. The only Ghost I believe in is the Holy Ghost. I do not believe the dead roam the earth. There is nothing in Christianity that supports that belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    First of all, why do you find it necessary to insult a large portion of the human race by implying that belief in a Supreme Being is superstitious? Secondly, you can equate the belief in God with a corresponding belief in civic responsibility and self esteem. Religion is a philosophical system that tells us the difference between right and wrong. It creates absolutes, not only "Thou Shalt Not's" but also "Thou Must". We are told to feed the hungry, take care of widows and orphans, take care of your family first. It establishes a system of behavior that allows mankind to survive. It offers a rock and a foundation to build your life. If there were no God man would surely create one.

    While lack of belief in a Supreme Being does not automatically make you nihilistic it certainly makes it far easier to believe that nothing matters, nothing is rock solid, nothing means anything and there is no such thing as right and wrong, it all depends on the situation.

    It can be said that he who stands for nothing will fall for anything.
    Standing Wolf struggles with the concept of superstition. He tends to equate "superstition" with something that cannot be proved or demonstrated scientifically...which would make almost everyone superstitious to one degree or another. Meh. Let the old man vent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    (1) To label Christianity as a mere "superstition"--without any supporting evidence--is certainly to beg the question.

    (2) The logical connection with "Country, Government, [and] Family--which MMC specifically mentioned--is this: Traditional values are no longer important to many members of the generation in question.

    That's what the liberal left does, assumes with self-righteousness that what they believe and opine to be absolutely true without question, and that there's something wrong with you should you think or believe differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    Why are you equating this with Christianity? Christianity has nothing to do with Ouija boards, which is actually a form of witchcraft. The only Ghost I believe in is the Holy Ghost. I do not believe the dead roam the earth. There is nothing in Christianity that supports that belief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Standing Wolf struggles with the concept of superstition. He tends to equate "superstition" with something that cannot be proved or demonstrated scientifically...which would make almost everyone superstitious to one degree or another. Meh. Let the old man vent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    Why are you equating this with Christianity? Christianity has nothing to do with Ouija boards, which is actually a form of witchcraft. The only Ghost I believe in is the Holy Ghost. I do not believe the dead roam the earth. There is nothing in Christianity that supports that belief.
    First of all, why does a belief in Ouija boards and ghosts have to be supported by Christianity?

    More to the point, what, specifically, is the substantive difference between a belief in unseen forces that move a plastic planchette across a board, or appear at the foot of your bed in certain hotel rooms or old houses, and a belief in an unseen force that made all things and takes a personal interest in what you do and can send you to Hell or Heaven when you die?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    Why are you equating this with Christianity? Christianity has nothing to do with Ouija boards, which is actually a form of witchcraft. The only Ghost I believe in is the Holy Ghost. I do not believe the dead roam the earth. There is nothing in Christianity that supports that belief.
    The hell there isn't. Matthew 27: 51-53
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