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Thread: Imminent Loss of ALL Civil Liberties!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    I agree. I think both nations have been planning it for the same long. We are just taking a little longer to implement it, because of the whole freedom and constitution bit. It isn't so easy to convince us Americans to surrender our civil liberties so easily. They have to slowly sneak it in. Or sneak it in when we are under threat and caught up in fear. Then they can tell us they are doing it for our own protection. As we see already we are willing to surrender so much just to be protected. But when you look at the links I provided you can clearly see the pattern, and exactly where it is leading. I don't think there is any way to escape this if we don't stop it. It would take a collective effort from all of us to stop this. It is going to be used for total control of the population. If we let them take it all the way, there will be no coming back.
    To get us to surrender rights and freedoms typically requires a blown out of proportion boggieman. (Unpatriot Act). But if this nation had to choose between no electronics and electronics under constant supervision I think we all know how quietly most would go into the good night of 1984. so apparently controlling the supply of something addictive works too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    To get us to surrender rights and freedoms typically requires a blown out of proportion boggieman. (Unpatriot Act). But if this nation had to choose between no electronics and electronics under constant supervision I think we all know how quietly most would go into the good night of 1984. so apparently controlling the supply of something addictive works too.
    Sad. If only people could understand that we could still have our gadgets and tech without it being used as a tool of suppression.
    We are all brothers and sisters in humanity. We are all made from the same dust of stars. We cannot be separated because all life is interconnected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    Sad. If only people could understand that we could still have our gadgets and tech without it being used as a tool of suppression.

    We'd have to have a revolution at the voting booth to make that happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    We'd have to have a revolution at the voting booth to make that happen.
    Yes, we need to get money out of politics. That is the only thing that is forcing our nation down these dark paths. If we would replace every rep who is a sellout, with one who works for the people, then our nation would change overnight. Our due diligence and continuous vigilance is required.
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    These are serious issues that should cause us all to educate ourselves. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect. -- Woody Hayes​

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    Yes, we need to get money out of politics. That is the only thing that is forcing our nation down these dark paths. If we would replace every rep who is a sellout, with one who works for the people, then our nation would change overnight. Our due diligence and continuous vigilance is required.
    Not unless we replaced the "employment agencies " that spawn them

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    These are serious issues that should cause us all to educate ourselves. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    But it happens all the time. The Unpatriot Act being a good example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post
    He is the one who is pushing for it. If you read the links it is all there.
    I've scanned through some of your stuff, but I don't see anything indicating Trump is "all in" when it comes to this. Can you point out a couple places where he is "pushing for it". Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    These are serious issues that should cause us all to educate ourselves. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    You didn't make fun of me on the day I posted this thread like you just did in the other thread. Here was your reply that day. Looks like you have changed you mind. Now it is jiggery pokery and argle bargle.
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    This is why we need strict constitutional conservatives in the majority.

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