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    Trump’s withdrawal from northern Syria is a foreign policy masterstroke

    Trump’s withdrawal from northern Syria is a foreign policy masterstroke

    Here is a good article from American Greatness. It is a Realpolitik view of foreign policy.

    resident Trump’s decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Northern Syria is a brilliant strategic move that simultaneously achieves all of our major objectives in the region.

    Perhaps because it has been so long since America had a coherent foreign policy strategy, the political establishment is aghast at the president’s action, predicting all manner of calamitous consequences. The same “experts,” however, have been responsible for the myriad foreign policy disasters that have befallen this country over the past two decades, so their discomfiture should be taken with a rather small grain of salt.



    In one deft move that doesn’t put a single American life at risk, President Trump achieved a regional solution to ISIS, undermined Iran’s capacity for foreign aggression, and disentangled the United States from an alliance of convenience that threatened to create major diplomatic headaches down the road.




    Contrary to claims that withdrawing American special forces from Northern Syria will enable ISIS to resurrect itself, for instance, the arrangement with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan merely shifts responsibility for the few remaining ISIS fighters onto Turkey.

    The successful operation to take out ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi only makes it even less likely that the terrorist group will reemerge.


    While the president deserves credit for implementing an aggressive military strategy that allowed U.S. and Kurdish forces to utterly destroy the Islamic caliphate, he also deserves credit for recognizing that the nature of the mission has now fundamentally changed. Rather than deploying American troops to the opposite side of the world to babysit the Kurds as they guard thousands of captured ISIS fighters—many of them European citizens whose home countries refuse to take responsibility for them—Turkey will now take over the role of guarding ISIS prisoners in its own backyard.

    Humanitarian concerns are not vital interests. Border disputes between Turks and Kurds are not a vital US interest.

    What are vital US interests:

    - preserving the lives of US military personnel

    - achieving a regional solution to ISIL

    - undermining Iran's capacity for assisting Hezbollah

    - disentanglement from a long term commitment with the Kurds as that will only cause more headaches down the road.




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    Foreign policy masterpiece for Turkey and Russia.

    Not so much for the US.

    Minimizing Russian influence in the region while maintaining ours as well as our credibility and stature in the world with our various allies are vital US interests.

    Wake up! This was a present for his buddy Vladimir, nothing more. The rushed implementation is a sign that his handlers don't expect him to weather the impeachment.
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    I think you have no clue about this.

    Read the article and give it another try.

    Compare and contrast US actions in Syria with those in Afghanistan.

    Although I need to head out soon, I will be around this weekend to guide you through this if needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Foreign policy masterpiece for Turkey and Russia.

    Not so much for the US.

    Minimizing Russian influence in the region while maintaining ours as well as our credibility and stature in the world with our various allies are vital US interests.

    Wake up! This was a present for his buddy Vladimir, nothing more. The rushed implementation is a sign that his handlers don't expect him to weather the impeachment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I think you have no clue about this.

    Read the article and give it another try.

    Compare and contrast US actions in Syria with those in Afghanistan.

    Although I need to head out soon, I will be around this weekend to guide you through this if needed.
    Crep didn't even read the article. He's not going to because he objects to the title.

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    I will refer all to review Trump's foreign policy speech of April 2016. That is the view of our Founders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Trump’s withdrawal from northern Syria is a foreign policy masterstroke Here is a good article from American Greatness. It is a Realpolitik view of foreign policy. Humanitarian concerns are not vital interests. Border disputes between Turks and Kurds are not a vital US interest. What are vital US interests: - preserving the lives of US military personnel - achieving a regional solution to ISIL - undermining Iran's capacity for assisting Hezbollah - disentanglement from a long term commitment with the Kurds as that will only cause more headaches down the road.
    Trump lost control of the Syrian situation the first week Russia entered , and he didn't get it back until after ISIL was smashed . The Astana Peace initiative was successful , and looks like holding , and was the main determining factor that shaped the outcome . It worked out ok for Trump as well , and basically HIS objectives were achieved , even though he had negative forces to deal with at home . His most important decision was to get rid of Bolton and put a temporary muzzle on Pompeeo . His next step should be to relinquish the Syrian oil fields or......it's not over yet , and could get far worse than at any time during the last 8 years.

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    Russia was involved in Syria prior to the US moving troops into the arena, Obama did so as a result of the Paris attacks.

    The reason some Observer's posts never include links is because those links would conflict with the arguments trying to be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Foreign policy masterpiece for Turkey and Russia.

    Not so much for the US.

    Minimizing Russian influence in the region while maintaining ours as well as our credibility and stature in the world with our various allies are vital US interests.

    Wake up! This was a present for his buddy Vladimir, nothing more. The rushed implementation is a sign that his handlers don't expect him to weather the impeachment.
    Crepitus..... https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019...8851572585233/

    Nov. 1 (UPI) -- U.S. infantry troops and armored vehicles moved into eastern Syria as part of a mission to fight the Islamic State and protect oil fields from falling into their hands, a U.S. military official said.Col. Myles Caggins, spokesman for Operation Inherent Resolve, the U.S.-led mission to defeat IS in Iraq and Syria, said Thursday that "mechanized forces" were being redeployed to the eastern Syrian city of Deir ez-Zor to support the Kurdish-led, U.S.-ally Syrian Democratic Forces
    This article is yesterday, Crepitus. The US has moved armor back into eastern Syria in support of the Kurdish led allies you just f'n spoke to there. You f'n did see this....correct?


    Esper said that the redeployment was already underway and would continue until they have "sufficient capability" to prevent IS, other similar terrorist groups, Russia and Syria from gaining control of the fields so the SDF can use profits from the sale of the oil to aid the United States in its mission."We want to make sure that SDF does have access to the resources in order to guard the prisons, in order to arm their own troops, in order to assist us with the defeat-[IS] mission," Esper said. "So that's our mission is to secure the oil fields
    This was....exactly....what you were just asking for, Crepitus, a redeployment......with "sufficient capability to prevent IS, other similar terrorist groups, Russia and Syria from gaining control of the fields" is exactly what that says there, were you unaware of this redeployment and can we now expect your support for this Trump initiative, it lines up exactly with your point of view.

    You.....a Trumpster…..I never would have believed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I think you have no clue about this.

    Read the article and give it another try.

    Compare and contrast US actions in Syria with those in Afghanistan.

    Although I need to head out soon, I will be around this weekend to guide you through this if needed.
    Lol, I believe I have a better grasp of the situation than you do.

    "Guide me through" indeed. Pshaw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Crepitus..... https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019...8851572585233/



    This article is yesterday, Crepitus. The US has moved armor back into eastern Syria in support of the Kurdish led allies you just f'n spoke to there. You f'n did see this....correct?




    This was....exactly....what you were just asking for, Crepitus, a redeployment......with "sufficient capability to prevent IS, other similar terrorist groups, Russia and Syria from gaining control of the fields" is exactly what that says there, were you unaware of this redeployment and can we now expect your support for this Trump initiative, it lines up exactly with your point of view.

    You.....a Trumpster…..I never would have believed it.
    I though is was defeated? I thought our troops were coming home?

    I thought you were pleased about both of those things. Are you not happy with it now?

    Or are you just gonna cheer tRump on no matter what he does?
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