PLACEHOLDER: How the Left Frames Conversations

[MisterVeritis]

But you made this thread off of my comments, and the way you framed them is wrong. I was merely correcting you as to how they were really meant. So you are saying you can take what a person said and twist the meaning, and then because you said so, that is now reality? That's now how it works.

I noted how unaware you are that your positions all are hard left. That fascinates me. I believe it is a tactic the left uses to frame our conversations. It is worth exploration.

[Private Pickle]

Examples:

Unnecessary wars
Corporate welfare
Environmentalism

More to follow.

The so-called "Conservatives" have framed that all by themselves by their actions. They don't need help from anyone.

[Just AnotherPerson]

I noted how unaware you are that your positions all are hard left. That fascinates me. I believe it is a tactic the left uses to frame our conversations. It is worth exploration.

You said that completely ignoring the answer I gave you which was this:

You sit firmly in the radical leftist camp without realizing that is where you are.



You are wrong. I don't hold my views because of the reasons you state. I hold them based of real world experience, and knowledge.

We are not involved in any war at this time that is necessary. I fully understand what it means to dismember a child with a bomb. We are killing the innocent in war and none of it is justifiable. Our actions cannot be defended. I am a deep looking person I am able to understand to the depths what it means to kill the innocent. I am not ok with it. The killing of a person must be for a good cause.

You are mistaken if you think the left is against war. Look at Obama, he massacred the Syrians and Yemenis. He was a monster. Look at Tulsi she speaks against war, and because of this has become an enemy of her party, the "left", as you call it.

I do not ascribe to the leftist ideal of making the rich pay for the poor. What I do champion is that they just pay the same as us. They pay their fair share. When they get breaks and pay nothing it is off the peoples backs that they do so. I understand this to the core.

My ideals about not wanting to see the planet polluted and razed, are not something that I learned from the Left. I have felt this way since I was a small child. I have seen into it since a long long time ago. We are carving up the belly of the earth to satiate our needs. We are blackening our waters and rendering them undrinkable. We are pumping poison into our air. It is now just as toxic to breathe as to smoke. Just breathing is equivalent to smoking a whole pack a day.

These are not ideal born from a collective lens but what I myself see with my own eyes. I am quite annoyed by the radicals from both parties. I hold my own views.

[Just AnotherPerson]

I was referring to you specific views on liberty.

I have started researching the build up to Roosevelt's counter revolution. That interests me.

I am not arguing this for you to write a book. I only threw that out there. My argument is that if that thread I made does not interest you then you don't care about the constitution like you say you do. Everyone should care about what I compiled in that thread. Your very liberty depends on it. If you don't care you will lose your liberty, and you will have handed it over without a fight and defended furiously the very man who would take it from you. This is not a joke, and not hyperbole. It is happening now. You should pay attention.

[Crepitus]

Examples:

Unnecessary wars
Corporate welfare
Environmentalism

More to follow.

How about "entitlements" and calling democracy "socialism"?

[Crepitus]

So the constitution and civil liberties are not "really" what interest you? Lol. You are one of the people in this forum who shout about holding fast to the constitution, but I make a thread such as this and there is not even so much as a peep from the constitution defenders. I laid out one of the most bombshell threads to hit this forum, and all that you hear are crickets. Lol. At least I know I am doing my part actually calling out real world violations. I don't see the world through the filter of party and loyalty like you do. I see through the eyes of truth and interbeing.

He's pretty much an anti-constitutionalist.

[MisterVeritis]

How about "entitlements" and calling democracy "socialism"?

Entitlements is a great addition. Welfare should never be considered an entitlement.