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Thread: George Will, "The Conservative Sensibility"

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    "fundamental mission maintaining an open society susceptible to the fluidity, the dynamism of a market society" is/was what the Tea Parties were about in aims like less taxes, smaller government, more liberty.
    Edmund Burke: "In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I fall out only with the Abuse. The Thing! the Thing itself is the Abuse!"

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    It has been a long time since he said anything interesting or relative.
    Blacks and poor people been voting Democrat for years and years. Hey are no better off. Vote for economics and traditions. Be part of saving America from the nutty left. The ones that highjacked this jaskassery Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Will has betrayed conservatism, I couldn't possibly care less about anything he has to say. If he were truly interested in the advancement of the ideology, he wouldn't have gone Level 6 TDS.
    I agree, he's gone TDS in his never-Trumpism. But how has he betrayed conservatism? Is conservatism an ideology?

    According to What Is Conservatism?:

    ...With this view of man’s nature, Goldwater says, it is understandable why “the Conservative looks upon politics as the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order.” The conservative is the first to understand that “the practice of freedom requires the establishment of order.” It is impossible for one man to be free if another is able to deny him the exercise of his freedom.

    But the conservative also recognizes that the political power on which order is based is a self-aggrandizing force; that its appetite grows with each feeding. “He knows,” says Goldwater, “that the utmost vigilance and care are required to keep political power within its proper bounds.”

    I end my definition of conservatism with an excerpt from Buckley’s Up from Liberalism, in which he lauds the conservative alternative based on “freedom, individuality, the sense of community, the sanctity of the family, the supremacy of the conscience, the spiritual view of life.” In just 21 words, Buckley provides a neat summation of conservatism’s first principles.

    Conservatism is a philosophy, not an ideology....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    Remarks on privacy @ 26:40.
    Not against the argument privacy rights are derived from more fundamental rights. Said important but didn't seem enthusiastic.

    In the minute or so leading uo to that point in the video he discusses Lincoln's rejection of Douglas's belief in allowing the popular vote to decide the slavery issue in each new state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I agree, he's gone TDS in his never-Trumpism. But how has he betrayed conservatism? Is conservatism an ideology?

    According to What Is Conservatism?:
    I'll not split hairs with you on this Chris, you know full well what conservatism is.

    Do you think turning on the most conservative governing president since Ronald Reagan advances the cause of conservatism? Yes or no.
    Last edited by countryboy; 11-07-2019 at 03:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I'll not split hairs with you on this Chris, you know full well what conservatism is.

    Do you think turning on the most conservative governing president since Ronald Reagan advances the cause of conservatism? Yes or no.
    I guess we differ as I don't see Trump as conservative. He's named conservative judges, yes, and deregulated, but little else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I guess we differ as I don't see Trump as conservative. He's named conservative judges, yes, and deregulated, but little else.
    I have never heard anyone refer to Trump as a conservative.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our freedom and our society and our morals.

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