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    The End of Canada?

    It's legal in CA for a province to secede.

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    Why?

    Because they’re unhappy with an election? That’s childish, but even if secession was legal, it wouldn’t happen.

    https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...ve-canada-poll

    While Alberta’s frustration with Ottawa runs rampant, less than 25 per cent of the province supports separation, states a new poll.
    The ThinkHQ online poll of 1,236 Albertans conducted from Oct. 4 to 7 suggests the Trudeau Liberals will suffer a severe shellacking in our province on election day Monday, with 71 per cent of respondents saying federal government priorities have hurt Alberta.
    And while 69 per cent of those surveyed say they empathize with separatist sentiment, 23 per cent say they’d vote to secede from Canada — the majority of them Conservative supporters.
    The poll shows 59 per cent would opt to remain in Canada, with a further 17 per cent undecided.
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    If you listen to the video, it's because secession is the only solution Alberta has to being taxed to fund the rest of Canada and to prosper off its shale oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    If you listen to the video, it's because secession is the only solution Alberta has to being taxed to fund the rest of Canada and to prosper off its shale oil.
    im well aware of Albertas problems, and the state of their economy, as well as Zeihans support of the oil industry as a geopolitical source.

    unfortunately, there just aren’t enough Albertans hell bent on destroying their environment. Time to diversify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    im well aware of Albertas problems, and the state of their economy, as well as Zeihans support of the oil industry as a geopolitical source.

    unfortunately, there just aren’t enough Albertans hell bent on destroying their environment. Time to diversify.

    Tail end of video speaks to how the secessionists are ramping up in power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    im well aware of Albertas problems,
    Actually, I'd be willing to wager a lot of money that you're not that aware. At all.


    and the state of their economy
    What tv show were you watching?

    as well as Zeihans support of the oil industry as a geopolitical source.
    Sure 'source' was the right word to use there?

    unfortunately, there just aren’t enough Albertans hell bent on destroying their environment. Time to diversify.
    Build some wind farms......giant solar panels? From taxpayer money of course.
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    Alberta is a bit like Texas, except that their oil is not in nice deep wells, it's mixed with sand and soil and has to be extracted at a much higher cost. Furthermore the tar sands are frozen for a significant portion of the year, also making oil extraction very expensive and equipment very hard to maintain. They have only four refineries with a combined capacity of over 458,200 b/d out of 3.9 Mbbl/d, so dirty bitumen has to be shipped south via pipeline, rail and truck. The minute the price of oil per barrel drops below $100, it is no longer economical to extract.

    Not unlike Texas, half of the population is not from Alberta, but from other parts of Canada, there because of the oil industry. Otherwise, Alberta is an agrarian province like its two neighbors to the east, with agriculture and livestock being its primary industries. As the world shifts away from fossil fuels, it would not be in Alberta's best interests to end up on it's own trying to survive as an agricultural nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Alberta is a bit like Texas, except that their oil is not in nice deep wells, it's mixed with sand and soil and has to be extracted at a much higher cost. Furthermore the tar sands are frozen for a significant portion of the year, also making oil extraction very expensive and equipment very hard to maintain. They have only four refineries with a combined capacity of over 458,200 b/d out of 3.9 Mbbl/d, so dirty bitumen has to be shipped south via pipeline, rail and truck. The minute the price of oil per barrel drops below $100, it is no longer economical to extract.

    Not unlike Texas, half of the population is not from Alberta, but from other parts of Canada, there because of the oil industry. Otherwise, Alberta is an agrarian province like its two neighbors to the east, with agriculture and livestock being its primary industries. As the world shifts away from fossil fuels, it would not be in Alberta's best interests to end up on it's own trying to survive as an agricultural nation.

    The world will move away from fossil fuels on the back of funding by fossil fuels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The world will move away from fossil fuels on the back of funding by fossil fuels.
    And? Is that going to keep oil at over $100/barrel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    It's legal in CA for a province to secede.

    It should always be legal. Unless you approve of an abusive marriage.

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