2020 Democrats accept more than $26,000 from Juul employees on cusp of Trump admin

[MMC]

I am a health nut, but this doesn't address my question.

Is the harm to users from the black market pods (or whatever they are called) or from the commercial pods?

I puffed on a Juul a couple of times and found it to be harmless. But I am a cigar smoker, so I don't get anything that I smoke into my lungs.

I don't know if it is the Pod. With the Vaping for Weed. Many were saying it was due to the THC oil. Especially anything Black Market like.

[Tahuyaman]

Some in the recovery industry say yes. I think that they are wrong.

There are some addictive substances that are fairly easy to give up.

[Tahuyaman]

The culprit in vaping has been found to be vitamin e acetate. This is commonly found in street vaping liquid. Vaping is completely harmless.

There are quite a few chemicals in the vaping solutions. It's not just water. It's still unknown just how harmful it is. However, we do know that it isn't a healthy habit.



Smoking cigarettes harms just about every organ in your body. Vaping is more than likely less harmful than cigarettes, but harmful just the same.



Its something people should try to avoid.

[Tahuyaman]

Wow! All the 17 Democrat candidates combined received $26,000 in donations from Juul employees over the course of a year??? What a blatant bribe!

All 1500 Juul employees must have donated almost $20 ($17.00) each to the various candidates over the course of the year. Damn, big bucks!

As long as the numbers aren't in the millions....

[silvereyes]

So, addiction is addiction and should be considered when looking into campaign contributions.....especially if the dollar amount is high. Got it. O.o

[donttread]

Is an addict an addict no matter what kind?

Well a drug addict is a drug addict, be it to booze,cocaine, heroin or tobacco. They are effectively enslaved.

[donttread]

There are quite a few chemicals in the vaping solutions. It's not just water. It's still unknown just how harmful it is. However, we do know that it isn't a healthy habit.



Smoking cigarettes harms just about every organ in your body. Vaping is more than likely less harmful than cigarettes, but harmful just the same.



Its something people should try to avoid.

Correct. It also leads to smoking combustible tobacco for many youth.

[donttread]

There are some addictive substances that are fairly easy to give up.

I'm listening. Some are certainly less difficult than others. Which ones did you have in mind?

[donttread]

I have some questions about the vaping issue. From what I understand the health problems are caused by people buying pods (is that the right term) on the black market. Why doesn't Juul say that in their ads? It seems they are rolling over to pressure.

I tried it before, and it seems to me to be much less of a health issue than cigarettes.

The vaping illness appears to be associated with black market devices probably loaded or reloaded by the black market types. Don't worry about JUUL, they have the marketing expertise of addiction INC behind them and they'll use it. Regular vaping may be LESS of a health issue than smoking but is not completely safe and may lead many kids into combustibles. Another way to package and sell nicotine addiction. and despite their claims just about all E-cigs contain nicotine.

[CaveDog]

Juul is owned by Altria, a traditional tobacco company. This is nothing new for the tobacco industry. However, the dirty little secret of the anti-vaping lobby is that vaping came along too late for the big tobacco settlement of the late 90s. More than 200 billion dollars over time. Vaping is cutting into tobacco sales and the states that won the settlement don’t get settlement funds from vape sales. Only a small percentage of that money has actually been used for smoking related programs. The bulk has gone into general funds so states have become addicted to the payments. Some states grabbed money up front by issuing “tobacco bonds”. In some cases these states guaranteed the bonds so they actually have to pay to cover failing bonds and many tobacco bonds have already been demoted to junk status. This has created a looming fiscal crisis, particularly for populous states like California and New York, who just happen to be at the forefront of the trend toward vape bans. One thing I learned from activism is that things in politics are rarely what them seem on the surface. People can believe all this anti-vaping rhetoric is “for the children” if they like but I see that as naive.