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    Chinese top trade negotiator says he wants Trump to get reelected

    Chinese top trade negotiator says he wants Trump to get reelected

    He says that Trump is says what he means which allows China to act without having to deduce US goals (i.e. political double-speak).

    And it seems that the US and China are close to a trade deal. Before the details are out, I will remind all that in negotiated settlements / deals if both sides come out thinking they could have done better, the negotiations were successful. I have successfully negotiated many settlements totaling into the hundreds of millions of dollars.

    While SCMP reports that Long doesn’t speak for China’s government in matters concerning the domestic affairs of other countries, the comment from someone considered the elder statesman of China’s trade diplomacy does offer a hint of the thinking in Beijing’s policymaking circle.

    Specifically, Long explains that the US president's daily Twitter posts broadcast his every impulse, delight and peeve to 67 million followers around the world, making him “easy to read” and “the best choice in an opponent for negotiations.”


    “Trump talks about material interests, not politics,” Long said in an interview with South China Morning Post in Shenzhen.
    “Such an opponent is the best choice for negotiations.”


    Contrary to what many politicians and business leaders think, Long does not believe the Trump administration has altered its approach to China in a fundamental way.


    Long explains that, unlike his predecessors, Trump does not pick fights with China on hot-button geopolitical issues such as Taiwan or Hong Kong, where Beijing has little room to maneuver...

    He makes the US decision-making process efficient and transparent, because he basically says what it is,” Long said of Trump.


    The pros of [having Trump] outweigh the cons. We don’t need to spend so much time figuring out what Americans want any more, or search for each other’s real thoughts in the dark, like we used to.”


    SCMP concludes on an optimistic tone, noting that Long is optimistic the two countries will reach a trade resolution soon, as it is also in China’s interests to increase imports so as to become a trade superpower.
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    "I will remind all that in negotiated settlements / deals if both sides come out thinking they could have done better, the negotiations were successful."

    Excellent point Pete. The old man that taught me this business taught me that very thing -- if both sides are somewhat disappointed, it was probably a fair settlement. It is hard to teach these young adjusters and young lawyers this concept -- they always want to "win" the negotiation. We win trials - we mitigate risk in negotiations.
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    Maybe the Chinese want another term for Trump because they're currently winning the trade war between the two nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Maybe the Chinese want another term for Trump because they're currently winning the trade war between the two nations.
    I don't see them as winning. I have clients that do lot of business with the Chi-coms and they tell me the Chinese are desperate. They say they'll never cave but that they are desperate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I don't see them as winning. I have clients that do lot of business with the Chi-coms and they tell me the Chinese are desperate. They say they'll never cave but that they are desperate.
    Meanwhile, Americans were paying huge tariffs that were meant to punish China but didn't. The US has also backed off proposed tariff increases due to vague promises by China. China has also won decisions in WTO courts.

    While there is no huge winner so far, China is seen as being ahead as of now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Maybe the Chinese want another term for Trump because they're currently winning the trade war between the two nations.
    No, the Chinese do not see themselves as winning the trade war. They are on the verge of economic collapse (they were before the trade war, it is worse now). On top of this they had to kill 50% of their pigs due to swine flu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Meanwhile, Americans were paying huge tariffs that were meant to punish China but didn't. The US has also backed off proposed tariff increases due to vague promises by China. China has also won decisions in WTO courts.

    While there is no huge winner so far, China is seen as being ahead as of now.
    Of course it punished the Chinese- where do you get these crazy ideas from.

    Americans only pay the tariffs if they buy Chinese crap. America businesses should be changing their supply routes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Of course it punished the Chinese- where do you get these crazy ideas from.

    Americans only pay the tariffs if they buy Chinese crap. America businesses should be changing their supply routes.
    Tariffs on Chinese goods have indeed punished the American consumers more than the Chinese exporters. The result of tariffs has been increased costs on a variety of products and a negligible effect on Chinese imports. The US doesn't just import crappy Chinese products. It also imports steel, aluminum and other raw goods that effect the cost of products made in the US as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    Tariffs on Chinese goods have indeed punished the American consumers more than the Chinese exporters. The result of tariffs has been increased costs on a variety of products and a negligible effect on Chinese imports. The US doesn't just import crappy Chinese products. It also imports steel, aluminum and other raw goods that effect the cost of products made in the US as well.
    We can import all of that elsewhere.

    We can also build business inside the US to produce much of this stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We can import all of that elsewhere.

    We can also build business inside the US to produce much of this stuff.
    Yes, the US theoretically can, but it doesn't. That's why US imports from China are over $500 billion a year.

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