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Thread: Just 29% Of Americans Support Allowing Biological Males On Girls’ Sports Teams

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    Forget the Poll its not important, there is POWERFUL opposition to this that democrats will bow too eventually

    Progressive Feminists and Conservative Women have teamed up against this, they are powerful foes for the democrat party
    LETS GO BRANDON
    F Joe Biden

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I haven't studied this legally. These rights things are messy. If someone is legally a female (although chromosomally a male - or vice versa) what are that individual's rights insofar as sports goes. I am a civil rights guy and try very hard to support the rights of those even when I don't like the outcome. I supported the right of the Nazis to march in Skokie though I loathe the Nazis and their message. I don't know the answer here, the courts will have to sort this out. They will eventually.

    I do know that we don't decide rights based on polls.
    Agree. I also agree with those who suggest that applying this proposed change in the law to school sports teams would have a very bad effect on girl's and women's sports and those who play them. The changes themselves are good and even necessary, but some way to limit their negative impact on female sports competitions has got to be found, and that way will almost certainly have to come from the courts.
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    Banning athletes who were born a male from from competing against athletes who were born a female would be bad for girls and women's athletics? That's a bizarre twist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    It's bizarre that transgendered kids terrify so many people.
    It has nothing to do with terror, it has to do with fairness. There's no reason to allow mental illness to ruin school sports.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    It has nothing to do with terror, it has to do with fairness. There's no reason to allow mental illness to ruin school sports.
    Making the claim that trans people terrify those who oppose this is a false flag argument.

    It's what people do when they know they are on the wrong side of an issue, but don't have the moral courage to go against the politically correct dictates of the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    .... I don't know the answer here, the courts will have to sort this out. They will eventually...
    The answer is very simple. If you were born a male, you compete against males. If you were born a female, you complete against females. Alterations made to your body are not taken into consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    I do get the legitimate concerns that trans athletes born male can have physical advantages in sports. However, they are such a tiny minority and claims that they will destroy girls sports is hyperbole.

    The notion that boys will pretend to be trans just to win against girls is laughable. Just as the irrational fear that they'll pretend to be trans to assault girls in the bathroom is.

    It is fear, regardless of your objection. Particularly with regards to bathrooms.
    The percentage of athletes this relates to is irrelevant. Also it has nothing to do with bathrooms.

    It's not fear. It about right and wrong. There is such a thing contrary to the "progressives" view of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    It's not a meme. It's clearly a motivational factor of some people's objections.

    I understand that you don't like the idea that fear motivates some people's political views, but it does. Some people are more influenced than others by the fear of change, the unknown, ambiguity and differing values.
    Why is my desire to maintain my values a "fear of the unknown"?

    Oh, I know, like Obamacare, "if you like your values you can keep your values"

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    Maybe the answer is to change the rules and allow female athletes to take steroids allowing them to become more masculine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Making the claim that trans people terrify those who oppose this is a false flag argument.

    It's what people do when they know they are on the wrong side of an issue, but don't have the moral courage to go against the politically correct dictates of the moment.
    Lol...yeah, but crying TDS all the time is acceptable.

    While it's true that trans people in sport is a complex issue and fairness is a legitimate concern, but with regards to the overall transsexual issue, I think you'll find you're on the wrong side of history.

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