The demographic trends the OP reports are supported by this analysis, The Religious Left Has a Numbers Problem:
The author, Frank Newport, Ph.D., is a Gallup senior scientist. I don't know his religious affiliation. :P...One of the major challenges faced by any politician interested in a religious left movement is the indisputable fact that there are fewer Americans today who are both highly religious and liberal than there are Americans who are both highly religious and conservative.
This conclusion is based on my analysis of 2018 Gallup data among non-Hispanic whites. I will return to the challenge of reaching black Americans below. Blacks are the most religious of any major racial or ethnic group in the country and strongly oriented to voting Democratic, with exit poll data showing that about nine in 10 voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016.
I estimate that about 20% of non-Hispanic white Americans are both conservative and highly religious (defined as those who attend religious services weekly or almost every week and for whom religion is important in their daily life) and thus are, broadly speaking, the "religious right." By contrast, only 4% of non-Hispanic white Americans are both liberal and highly religious, or the group that would constitute the "religious left." More broadly, 52% of white conservatives are highly religious, compared with only 16% of white liberals.
In short, the potential for political activation of highly religious white voters -- most importantly in reference to the looming 2020 presidential election -- appears significantly higher on the right side of the ideological spectrum than on the left.
What about the influence of the religious left within the Democratic Party? Here again, the potential impact of religion for candidates seeking their party's nomination appears lower than is the case in the Republican Party. My estimate is that about 23% of white Democrats are highly religious. The majority of these highly religious white Democrats are ideologically moderate and conservative, which wouldn't fit the definition of a classic "religious left." (Only 9% of white Democrats are highly religious and liberal -- the description, it appears to me, that would best fit Buttigieg.) This suggests that Democratic candidates seeking to activate support among highly religious white members of their party would need to move more to the center of the ideological spectrum.
By contrast, 51% of white Republicans are highly religious, and 40% are highly religious and conservative, the analog to the religious right....
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
You actually didn't address anything I said in this post.
You skipped over it and only addressed my comment on the source.
I've been polite and I've engaged in discussing the topic. I simply pointed out the source and you've fixated on that rather than other arguments.
The OP's primary claim is that there is little evidence that political stances and media attention have an appreciable effect on either the growth or decline of congregations. You didn't address this. You simply gave your own opinion (which is fine, BTW) on this decline. Your comments seem more like a response to Peter than to the OP. The OP makes an interesting point about the growth of non-white evangelicalism (one confirmed by glancing at the audience of someone like Joel Osteen, for example).
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
Stop being dishonest.
You posted http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...=1#post2734437
I countered with http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...=1#post2734447
And you defended yourself with mere ad hom http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...=1#post2734468
I addressed your fallacious defense http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...=1#post2734519
And you defended your being illogical...
Yes, polite and illogical.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
It's an interesting point. Lily-white mainline Protestant denominations are dying off. I tend to agree that this is in part due to vapid and progressive theology but it's also due to indifferentism.
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
Indifferentism is defined as belief that all religions are equally valid, iow, relativism. More completely but (beware!) religiously defined here: Religious Indifferentism.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
Mister D (11-09-2019)
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
Liberal or false churches are like weeds, they pop up, they will even say, "Well we don't quote that verse anymore". To keep attracting they have to refuse to preach the Bible. They will bring in secular music, bands, sports, schools, whatever they can to get people to join becasue they can't keep people.
Then you have the ones planted like a tree, deep into the ground. Over time the tree grows and roots are strong. Their branches are think. Christ is head over their Church and no passages are left out. These are the ones who withstand the test of time.
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;