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    Exclamation Trump's War Against Veterans

    What a vile and disgusting thing to say, especially from some fat ass coward who weaseled his way out of military service from "bone spurs".


    https://www.nbcnews.com/card/trump-i...trBC7G3WIMZVQ0

    Trump Implies Vets Suffering From PTSD 'Can’t Handle' War

    Donald Trump has come under fire for comments he made during a Q&A with retired veterans Tuesday morning.
    Speaking with the Retired American Warriors PAC in Virginia, the Republican nominee suggested veterans suffering from PTSD are not “strong” and “can’t handle” the stresses of war.
    “When people come back from war and combat and they see things that, maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over, and you’re strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can’t handle it,” Trump said.
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    “When people come back from war and combat and they see things that, maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over, and you’re strong and you can handle it, but a lot of people can’t handle it,” Trump said.
    This is a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    This is a fact.

    Don't dwell in derangement- that is TDS.
    Obviously. Goofy thread.

    We're told we all know why liberals hate Trump. Considering that we're exposed almost daily to stupid $#@! like this OP, yeah, I think we do.
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    I would not be surprised that there's more context to what Trump said that NBC didn't print.

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    It takes a great deal of strength to be able to handle PTSD without medical help.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Here's the complete question and complete answer;

    QUESTION: Good morning Mr. Trump. As you mentioned there is a tragic suicide epidemic among our veterans, among our military and their families. While the military and the V.A. are working on the problem, their efforts continue to fall short. There are a number of faith-based programs outside the DOD and the V.A., that are continuing to be successful in stopping suicide and divorce rates.

    Spiritual fitness works on these types of problems. The government is not taking advantage of these programs and services. So my question for you is, when you become president, will you support and fund a more holistic approach to solve the problems and issues of veteran suicide, PTSD, TBI and other related military mental and behavioral health issues and will you take steps to restore the historic role of our Chaplains and the importance of spiritual fitness and spiritual resiliency programs?

    TRUMP: Yes I would. Look we need that so badly and when you…

    (APPLAUSE)

    When you talk about the mental health problems, when people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over and you’re strong and you can handle it. But a lot of people can’t handle it. And they see horror stories. They see events that you couldn’t see in a movie, nobody would believe it.

    Now we need a mental health help and medical. And it’s one of the things that I think is least addressed and is one of the things that — like your question — one of the things that I hear the most about when I go around and talk to the veterans. So we’re going to have a very, very robust, level of performance having to do with mental health. We are losing so many great people that can be taken care of if they have proper care.

    You know when you hear the 22 suicides a day it’s a big part of your question. But when you hear the 22 suicides a day that should never be. That should never be. So we’re going to be addressing that very strongly and the whole mental health issue is going to be a very important issue when I take over and the V.A. is going to be fixed in so many ways but that’s going to be one of the ways we’re going to help.

    And that’s in many respects going to be the number one thing we have to do. Because I think it’s really been left behind. OK? Thank you very much.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.co...pt/%3famp=true

    Not to mention @Agent Zero your links date says 1112 days ago, that's on or before Oct. 3, 2016.
    BTW, NBC was lying by omission 1112 days ago and haven't stop.

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    Not only false but old.

    Donald Trump Didn’t Say Vets with PTSD Are ‘Weak’



    After a Retired American Warriors town hall campaign event was held on 3 October 2016 in Herndon, Virginia, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump was widely accused of insultingly asserting that veterans who suffer from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) are weak.

    Occupy Democrats was one of many political outlets claiming Trump had called veterans with PTSD weak and had insulted those who required mental health services after serving, and that the news media largely ignored hist comments...

    The Washington Post also weighed in, framing Trump’s comments as a “gaffe”...

    Trump’s complete response focused largely on committing to an increase in veterans’ services, not on deriding disabled veterans. He indeed flattered “folks in this room” for being “strong,” but he also expressed empathy at length for those military personnel who had experienced “horror stories” which “nobody would believe”:

    Yes I would. Look we need that so badly and when you … when you talk about the mental health problems, when people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over and you’re strong and you can handle it. But a lot of people can’t handle it. And they see horror stories. They see events that you couldn’t see in a movie, nobody would believe it.

    Now we need a mental health help and medical. And it’s one of the things that I think is least addressed and is one of the things that — like your question — one of the things that I hear the most about when I go around and talk to the veterans. So we’re going to have a very, very robust, level of performance having to do with mental health. We are losing so many great people that can be taken care of if they have proper care.

    You know when you hear the 22 suicides a day it’s a big part of your question. But when you hear the 22 suicides a day that should never be. That should never be. So we’re going to be addressing that very strongly and the whole mental health issue is going to be a very important issue when I take over and the V.A. is going to be fixed in so many ways but that’s going to be one of the ways we’re going to help.

    And that’s in many respects going to be the number one thing we have to do. Because I think it’s really been left behind. OK? Thank you very much.
    Trump’s remarks (at approximately the 0:55 minute mark) were not derisive: he maintained that veterans’ mental health care was one of the issues he felt was “least addressed,” and he held that he commonly received similar questions when meeting with service members....
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    Snopes?

    lol
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    War against veterans. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    Snopes?

    lol

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