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Thread: Another Year, Another Coup: Evo Morales Resigns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It's weird how you keep trying to portray me as an "idealist" when my foreign policy is based on the same armed neutrality that was practiced by the founding fathers.
    I would argue that had less to do with beliefs and more to do with ability. When we started out, we didn't have the ability to do much outside of our local region. We still conquered what territory we could. Once we became powerful enough to do so, we engaged in the interventionism you referenced earlier. It began with Latin America and expanded throughout the rest of the world eventually.

    If the Founders had the firepower that we now have, I can assure you that most of them would not be non-interventionist. I'm not faulting them for that -- it's just that situations somewhat dictate behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The context is that the US placed nuclear missiles in Turkey and aimed them at Russia. So Russia began responding in kind until JFK agreed to remove the Jupiter missiles from Turkey. Once again, militarism created a problem that was only resolved through diplomacy. Incidentally, JFK was at odds with the CIA throughout much of his presidency. They basically tried to trick him into invading Cuba during the Bay of Pigs disaster.
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    When someone spends six years in the Marine Corps and ETS’ as a Lance Corporal, (E-3), that person must be either bitter or embarrassed. Likely both.

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    I suppose we’re also supposed to take it as coincidence that Morales moved to nationalize Bolivia’s huge lithium reserves a week before the coup, and the day after the coup Tesla (who relies on lithium batteries) had a huge stock boost?

    Also, Morales didn’t start trying to consolidate power around him until the military started making moves to try and oust him, and he still tried all the proper democratic channels to get it done.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
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