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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    What they should be asking for is less corporate cronyism. The source of the problem isn't capitalism -- it's government favoring some companies over others.
    Right we are the opposite of socialism. Here the means of production owns the people's government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Right we are the opposite of socialism. Here the means of production owns the people's government.
    Well, I'd argue that, in practice, socialism usually is the same as corporate cronyism. The only difference is that the government is production.

    In a crony capitalism, industry buys government. In a socialism, government is industry, so oligarchs still control everything.

    In theory, socialism is different, but not when it's actually tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    They knew what they were talking about in most ways, but they over fretted about much. Including "kids these days"
    My dad would sometimes say " son are ya ' crazy or something"? Well...lol
    I'm yo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The current generation seems to be embracing socialism despite its repeated failures. They are fools.

    I don't think what they embrace is true socialism. Besides old commie hippies now run companies. In the words of Aaron Rogers from a few years back we need to "Relax"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Compassionate capitalism. lol

    What is that? It sounds like the calls for compassionate conservationism in the 2000 election that gave us Bush the Younger. It was an excuses for massive deficit spending. Their motto was deficits don't matter, and we will spend on our priorities and not dem proprieties.

    Why don't you just embrace the free market rather than making something fake up?
    It's the Nordic Model and a term used by Forbes in fact. And it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Compassionate capitalism. lol

    What is that? It sounds like the calls for compassionate conservationism in the 2000 election that gave us Bush the Younger. It was an excuses for massive deficit spending. Their motto was deficits don't matter, and we will spend on our priorities and not dem proprieties.

    Why don't you just embrace the free market rather than making something fake up?

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffrey.../#6522e3e74ad3

    See not fake and thrown around by some pretty respected free market types. Also, it describes what the Nordic countries do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I don't think what they embrace is true socialism. Besides old commie hippies now run companies. In the words of Aaron Rogers from a few years back we need to "Relax"
    If that's true, why do they have such a love affair with Cuba and the Castro's?


    Relaxing and just dismissing it will ensure it happens. The hard left is patient. They rely on people becoming complacent. They understand that they can realize their dream through incrementalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    Well, I'd argue that, in practice, socialism usually is the same as corporate cronyism. The only difference is that the government is production.

    In a crony capitalism, industry buys government. In a socialism, government is industry, so oligarchs still control everything.

    In theory, socialism is different, but not when it's actually tried.
    It's all a circle centered around control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    If that's true, why do they have such a love affair with Cuba and the Castro's?


    Relaxing and just dismissing it will ensure it happens. The hard left is patient. They rely on people becoming complacent. They understand that they can realize their dream through incrementalism.
    I was not aware of any Cuban love affair, although I do hear that chicks dig those Latin lovers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I don't think what they embrace is true socialism. Besides old commie hippies now run companies. In the words of Aaron Rogers from a few years back we need to "Relax"
    So, old commie hippies are now the means of production that own the people's government?

    And if you'll note, donttread. The Packers haven't been relevant since Rodgers made that statement. He relaxed as well....by insisting they replace the coach. Not such a great analogy to be using?

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