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    Why I am not a republican

    Just thought I would post this here because this is gonna be way off topic from my original post.
    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    A lot of people care.....as anyone should have the Right to face their accuser. If you and other leftists are so so concerned for the WB. Then put him in protective custody. That would be a witness protection program. Which by the way worked for the FBI against Mob informants. So all that touchy emotional Bull$#@! about the WB. Is nothing more than a lame excuse about his possible fate.
    BTW, To be honest I don't really consider myself a lefty or a righty. I just pay attention to policy.
    I don't like denying women freedom to control their body,
    I think a wall will be a huge waste of money (technology would be more cost effective),
    I don't think giving tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires will be good for me personally, or anyone else,
    I don't think more coal mines will help stave off climate change,
    I don't think it's ok to normalize attacking the free press. We should all be terrified by this.
    I don't think --as I showed in my other post-- that Trump really changed the trajectory of our economy for the better,
    I don't think it's ok for Trump to leak code word classified information to Russians in the oval office (FFS),
    or to destroy U.S. reputation by abandoning allies in Syria (and neither do republicans).
    I think that if Canada and most (all?) all other industrialized countries can effect universal health care, then the U.S. can.

    I think most of these things shouldn't be tied to the left philosphy but they are. So call me left. for now.

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    Mamooth strikes again.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our freedom and our society and our morals.

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    I am not a republican for the same reason I am not a democrat. Both parties are hell bent on spending the USD into a complete collapse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Just thought I would post this here because this is gonna be way off topic from my original post.


    BTW, To be honest I don't really consider myself a lefty or a righty. I just pay attention to policy.
    I don't like denying women freedom to control their body,
    I think a wall will be a huge waste of money (technology would be more cost effective),
    I don't think giving tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires will be good for me personally, or anyone else,
    I don't think more coal mines will help stave off climate change,
    I don't think it's ok to normalize attacking the free press. We should all be terrified by this.
    I don't think --as I showed in my other post-- that Trump really changed the trajectory of our economy for the better,
    I don't think it's ok for Trump to leak code word classified information to Russians in the oval office (FFS),
    or to destroy U.S. reputation by abandoning allies in Syria (and neither do republicans).
    I think that if Canada and most (all?) all other industrialized countries can effect universal health care, then the U.S. can.

    I think most of these things shouldn't be tied to the left philosphy but they are. So call me left. for now.
    Hear, hear! I am called a lefty now as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    I don't think it's ok to normalize attacking the free press. We should all be terrified by this.

    The mainstream press is kind of a joke at this point. It's hard to tell the difference between state run media and officially private media that broadcasts what the deep state prefers. Granted, this isn't just an American problem. The mainstream press in most of the West in general is like this. Media corporations usually are in bed with established government interests.

    This becomes even more blatant with digital media. It's public knowledge that Google has government contracts connected with intelligence agencies and with the Chinese government. Facebook is getting a lot of pressure from various governments to do their bidding, which they've obliged in most cases. Twitter has some skeletons of its own as well.

    So, it's not really a free press in the original spirit of that phrase. The job of a lot of mainstream media is not to inform but to propagandize and datamine citizens.

    They deserve the criticism they get for their bias and their cozy relations with government.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    I don't think it's ok for Trump to leak code word classified information to Russians in the oval office (FFS),
    or to destroy U.S. reputation by abandoning allies in Syria (and neither do republicans).

    As far as Syria goes, a lot of the same people demanding we leave Syria suddenly changed their tone and said we were deserting the Kurds. It's pretty clear that it wouldn't matter what action Trump took on that conflict -- they would find a reason to complain.

    Trump has handled Syria in a far less escalated way than most other politicians would have. Now that Russia has taken the lead, things have calmed down some. I'd rather they have the burden of babysitting the region.

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    What free press? Who is doing actual reporting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Mamooth strikes again.
    I don't think it's mamooth. Whenever I challenged mamooth, he was usually incapable of defending his views without going ad hominem. This guy seems to actually debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Just thought I would post this here because this is gonna be way off topic from my original post.


    BTW, To be honest I don't really consider myself a lefty or a righty. I just pay attention to policy.
    I don't like denying women freedom to control their body,
    I think a wall will be a huge waste of money (technology would be more cost effective),
    I don't think giving tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires will be good for me personally, or anyone else,
    I don't think more coal mines will help stave off climate change,
    I don't think it's ok to normalize attacking the free press. We should all be terrified by this.
    I don't think --as I showed in my other post-- that Trump really changed the trajectory of our economy for the better,
    I don't think it's ok for Trump to leak code word classified information to Russians in the oval office (FFS),
    or to destroy U.S. reputation by abandoning allies in Syria (and neither do republicans).
    I think that if Canada and most (all?) all other industrialized countries can effect universal health care, then the U.S. can.

    I think most of these things shouldn't be tied to the left philosphy but they are. So call me left. for now.
    Those are all simply left wing talking points. It would be referencing to get a new liberal member here who wasn't a DNC cliché machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    The mainstream press is kind of a joke at this point. It's hard to tell the difference between state run media and officially private media that broadcasts what the deep state prefers. Granted, this isn't just an American problem. The mainstream press in most of the West in general is like this. Media corporations usually are in bed with established government interests.

    This becomes even more blatant with digital media. It's public knowledge that Google has government contracts connected with intelligence agencies and with the Chinese government. Facebook is getting a lot of pressure from various governments to do their bidding, which they've obliged in most cases. Twitter has some skeletons of its own as well.

    So, it's not really a free press in the original spirit of that phrase. The job of a lot of mainstream media is not to inform but to propagandize and datamine citizens.

    They deserve the criticism they get for their bias and their cozy relations with government.





    As far as Syria goes, a lot of the same people demanding we leave Syria suddenly changed their tone and said we were deserting the Kurds. It's pretty clear that it wouldn't matter what action Trump took on that conflict -- they would find a reason to complain.

    Trump has handled Syria in a far less escalated way than most other politicians would have. Now that Russia has taken the lead, things have calmed down some. I'd rather they have the burden of babysitting the region.
    A majority of the blame can be placed upon capitalism; Media companies are in business to make a profit for the shareholders; ever since the deregulation of the airwaves objective reporting has spiraled downward. High ratings = larger dividends for the shareholders and larger bonuses for the executives; all else is secondary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Those are all simply left wing talking points. It would be referencing to get a new liberal member here who wasn't a DNC cliché machine.
    It would be nice to have current conservative members understand the difference between "refreshing" and "referencing".
    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

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