Bidens Conflict of Interest? Nope. Sorry

[TheLiquidGuy]

There is no doubt that Joe violated 18 USC 208 when he forced the Ukraine prosecutor who was investigating his son's company out.
And you don't have to believe it was intentional. That statute also covers the appearance of a conflict of interest.

Your point is taken.

Here is the problem. If Joe Biden must be disqualified from holding office because of this, then likewise Trump should have to resign on principle.

The 2nd volume of Mueller's report details as many as 11 possible occurrences of obstruction of justice. You may recall that after the report had been released there was a letter circulating that had been signed by over 1200 federal and state prosecutors asserting that if they had been presented with this report for consideration they would have moved forward and prosecuted.

Defenders of the president were aghast. How could you prosecute the president for obstruction when there is no underlying crime? Obstruction needs no underlying crime. Similarly, The appearance of conflict of interest requires no underlying conflict of interest.

This is the problem when you turn a blind eye to the misconduct of a corrupt leader and impose no consequences. It sets a precedent. If President Trump was given a pass, Joe should gets one too (and all future POTUS and VPs too) So if you are one of those people who have justified ignoring the obstruction charges against the president based on the lack of evidence to support a conspiracy charge, then I don't want to see you calling foul for the appearance of conflict of interest.

[Toober]

heres your problem,,,i dont think trump will resign on your principle...


don again 2020

[texan]

Your point is taken.

Here is the problem. If Joe Biden must be disqualified from holding office because of this, then likewise Trump should have to resign on principle.

The 2nd volume of Mueller's report details as many as 11 possible occurrences of obstruction of justice. You may recall that after the report had been released there was a letter circulating that had been signed by over 1200 federal and state prosecutors asserting that if they had been presented with this report for consideration they would have moved forward and prosecuted.

Defenders of the president were aghast. How could you prosecute the president for obstruction when there is no underlying crime? Obstruction needs no underlying crime. Similarly, The appearance of conflict of interest requires no underlying conflict of interest.

This is the problem when turn a blind eye to the misconduct of a corrupt leader and impose no consequences. It sets a precedent. If President Trump was given a pass, Joe should gets one too (and all future POTUS and VPs too) So if you are one of those people who have justified ignoring the obstruction charges against the president based on the lack of evidence to support a conspiracy charge, then I don't want to see you calling foul for the appearance of conflict of interest.

People don’t resign over 1200 or 20 partisan democrats sending a letter around. On principle alone you should be pissed at the democrat party for abusing the government over the election loss.

Principle my ass. Get the F out of here.

[TheLiquidGuy]

People don’t resign over 1200 or 20 partisan democrats sending a letter around. On principle alone you should be pissed at the democrat party for abusing the government over the election loss.

Principle my ass. Get the F out of here.

LOL , Aren’t republicans adorable?
They always conclude that anyone ruling against them is politically motivated. So cute!

[Orion Rules]

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The 2nd volume of Mueller's report details as many as 11 possible occurrences of obstruction of justice. You may recall that after the report had been released there was a letter circulating that had been signed by over 1200 federal and state prosecutors asserting that if they had been presented with this report for consideration they would have moved forward and prosecuted. [...]"

Redundancy of no laws broken believed by prejudiced and blind to it. Or are part of the deep state apparatus. Extensive investigations downplayed, facts deleted /added, stories mixed up to make it a myth. The F.B.I. is trashed, Robert Mueller ridiculed, witnesses tampered with, threatened. An "impeachment process" of deep state players costs extortion, purse rackets, court costs. 'Everything will be ok if you agree to it'. Attempts at monetary extortion works fast: 'It is you who is not compliant. Since so, something will be done about it'. It gets pissed off when reminded of it.

[Toober]

LOL , Aren’t republicans adorable?
They always conclude that anyone ruling against them is politically motivated. So cute!

which member of your group are we talking to now..you sound female...

[TheLiquidGuy]

which member of your group are we talking to now..you sound female...

I gotta admit. I sound a little feminine sometimes. I take it as a compliment though. We need more women running the country.
Somebody should mention to Trump that they are also eligible for gov't positions.

[TheLiquidGuy]

Redundancy of no laws broken believed by prejudiced and blind to it. Or are part of the deep state apparatus. Extensive investigations downplayed, facts deleted /added, stories mixed up to make it a myth. The F.B.I. is trashed, Robert Mueller ridiculed, witnesses tampered with, threatened. An "impeachment process" of deep state players costs extortion, purse rackets, court costs. 'Everything will be ok if you agree to it'. Attempts at monetary extortion works fast: 'It is you who is not compliant. Since so, something will be done about it'. It gets pissed off when reminded of it.

Seriously, what's this guy's deal?

[Peter1469]

Your point is taken.

Here is the problem. If Joe Biden must be disqualified from holding office because of this, then likewise Trump should have to resign on principle.

The 2nd volume of Mueller's report details as many as 11 possible occurrences of obstruction of justice. You may recall that after the report had been released there was a letter circulating that had been signed by over 1200 federal and state prosecutors asserting that if they had been presented with this report for consideration they would have moved forward and prosecuted.

Defenders of the president were aghast. How could you prosecute the president for obstruction when there is no underlying crime? Obstruction needs no underlying crime. Similarly, The appearance of conflict of interest requires no underlying conflict of interest.

This is the problem when you turn a blind eye to the misconduct of a corrupt leader and impose no consequences. It sets a precedent. If President Trump was given a pass, Joe should gets one too (and all future POTUS and VPs too) So if you are one of those people who have justified ignoring the obstruction charges against the president based on the lack of evidence to support a conspiracy charge, then I don't want to see you calling foul for the appearance of conflict of interest.

Obstruction of justice has nothing to do with the conflict of interest laws at 18 USC 208.

And there is a good legal argument that if there is no underlying crime, there can be no obstruction. Especially when the president did not defund the investigation, prevent it from operating, destroying evidence, etc.

So when the Dems cry "obstruction" because Trump calls the investigation a witch hunt- well it was. wtf?

Trump has the right to defend himself against a soft coup. Anywhere else blood would have been shed- the coup plotters would have been slaughtered.

[Peter1469]

Seriously, what's this guy's deal?

Not to break the rules, but a few people here are what the Army use to call Section 8.