Ok, so Trump did it. Impeachable?

[hanger4]

$12 million sounds wrong. Where did you get that number from? I saw one estimate at $6 million. But even that seems too much.

To give perspective the Hillary campaign had $132 million to work with.


But anyway, it is plausible that she didnt know. Thats good enough for me. Just like it is plausible for you that trump was merely interested in combatting Ukraine corruption. See how that works?

Seems the total amount paid Perkins Cole, the law firm, was around 12 mil, 6 mil of which was paid around the time Fusion GPS was hired who to turn hired Steele. My bad. But still, it's naive to think they made a 6 million dollar pay out without knows what their money was being used for.

The Clinton campaign spend 130 million in just the final weeks, that doesn't include her primaries or the 3 plus months before October. All totalled, the DNC, HRC campaign and supporting PAC's spend over a billion dollars.

[Peter1469]

thats the system we are stuck with. They swear an oath to uphold the constitution and perform their duties, and then they sh-t all over it once they are in office. Senate: DO YOUR JOB!

That is the system. I bet the Senate tells the House to $#@! of.


If they don't and they hold hearings we will end up with Schiff and others being legally liable for sedition. That is a potential death sentence. So you should hope for the Senate doing nothing.

[carolina73]

Did What? You told us that Russia was manipulating the 2016 election. Investigations show that going through the Ukraine and we also know that the government of the Ukraine was actually lobbying for Hillary.

You deciding that Trump did it for political reasons instead of to see that justice is done with those that tampered with our election is ridiculous. You don't know that.
It is much easier to determine that the drug addict getting paid 80 grand a month was certainly meant to be a bribe but we do not know if his father was influenced by the attempt. The investigation will show that. After all if he has nothing to hide then he should just come clean instead of obstructing. Why is Joe obstructing?

[TheLiquidGuy]

Are being serious?

[TheLiquidGuy]

Seems the total amount paid Perkins Cole, the law firm, was around 12 mil, 6 mil of which was paid around the time Fusion GPS was hired who to turn hired Steele. My bad. But still, it's naive to think they made a 6 million dollar pay out without knows what their money was being used for.

The Clinton campaign spend 130 million in just the final weeks, that doesn't include her primaries or the 3 plus months before October. All totalled, the DNC, HRC campaign and supporting PAC's spend over a billion dollars.

You know what. If hillary knowingly broke the law, then i am fine with her paying the consequences. If she knowingly did it. But the same standard must aply to Trump

[hanger4]

You know what. If hillary knowingly broke the law, then i am fine with her paying the consequences. If she knowingly did it. But the same standard must aply to Trump

I've already stated that those that paid Steele directly or indirectly broke no campaign finance laws. I also posted the pertinent law and it states foreign nationals can not donate/contribute to US elections. Purchasing goods, and services or things of value from foreign nationals is not illegal.

The DNC/Clinton Campaign knew what they were doing would be controversial, tis why their funding of Steele's dossier was laundered through a third party.

[Peter1469]

I've already stated that those that paid Steele directly or indirectly broke no campaign finance laws. I also posted the pertinent law and it states foreign nationals can not donate/contribute to US elections. Purchasing goods, and services or things of value from foreign nationals is not illegal.

The DNC/Clinton Campaign knew what they were doing would be controversial, tis why their funding of Steele's dossier was laundered through a third party.

And it had nothing to do with Russians. It was made up by a US based company. Cold Fussion. And the fools in the "media" claim it was Russians.