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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I remember the articles out there when Bush the Younger was running- compassionate conservationism- Dems over spend; we should too- just for our programs.

    And here we are.
    Conservatism doesn’t need to be portrayed as “compassionate conservatism”. It’s compassionate by nature. It gives people hope and a reason to be optimistic for their future. It fosters individualism, achievement and success. It tells people that everyone can achieve through their merits.

    Liberalism is the opposite. It tells people that they can not achieve success on their own. They aren’t capable based on their own merits. It tells them without a huge all powerful government you are facing doom and gloom. No hope, no optimism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Conservatism doesn’t need to be portrayed as “compassionate conservatism”. It’s compassionate by nature. It gives people hope and a reason to be optimistic for their future. It fosters individualism, achievement and success. It tells people that everyone can achieve through their merits.

    Liberalism is the opposite. It tells people that they can not achieve success on their own. They aren’t capable based on their own merits. It tells them without a huge all powerful government you are facing doom and gloom. No hope, no optimism.
    Right- the slogan was a shame. It was not conservationism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Right- the slogan was a shame. It was not conservationism.
    The intent of liberalism is to demoralize people and break their natural spirit of individualism. That way you will be more willing to allow government to take over and do the things one should do for themselves. The opposite of compassion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    Democrats? Republicans? It’s all tribalism. The problem stems from the failure to differentiate between politics and the founding principles of our institutions of government established by the Constitution. In choosing our representatives and elected officials, one cannot help but be influenced by individual biases and prejudices that cloud our judgment; and the framers of the Constitution provided for the timing of elections, and the appointment and confirmation of officers and federal judges with this in mind and a view to a better and more balanced government. It should be noted that George Washington, who is considered the father of our country - who commanded the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War, presided over the Constitutional Convention, and was unanimously elected the first President of the newly formed United States - advised against political parties. See George Washington, "Farewell Address" (1796). The rest of our so-called "founding fathers" had no hesitation to choosing sides.
    While the concept of not having parties is appealing, it's also not realistic. In basically every representative government, parties exist. People still vote for individuals, but they are affiliated with one party or coalition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    R, the leadership and much of the base of the one Party has become every bit as shrill, uncompromising and apocalyptic in their rhetoric as the other. Take a step back for just a moment and consider some of the words of our fellow members - the ones who write about a civil war, an insurrection or a violent revolution if Trump is ousted or he loses in 2020. Yes, far too many of the Democratic would-be candidates for President are either genuinely clueless about the incredibly negative effect their words have on half the country, but the same is true for Trump and many of his supporters.

    What this country desperately needs at this point in its history is a statesman - an intelligent, moderate and pragmatic individual to lead by example and move us all away from the fringes. The country does not need either a wide-eyed patsy for the eternally aggrieved or four more years of a clueless, self-absorbed loose cannon of a carnival barker. If either Party were to nominate such a man or woman, they would have my vote.
    I can agree to an extent, although the reason I support Trump is because populism is needed at the moment. For far too long, both parties have embraced globalism. We need some nationalism to protect some of our interests. Trump is the only guy running that has that focus.

    If the Democrats would run a nationalist that is supportive of gun rights and restrictive toward immigration, then sure, I'd vote for him/her. Granted, they wouldn't really be a Democrat at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Some argue that pupose of national populism is all about managing the decline.
    There's truth to that, but the decline doesn't have to happen if we can balance the budget and pay down the debt. Populists aren't known for being small government, but Trump does listen to Rand Paul on certain things. I think Paul is doing a good job of slowly steering Trump toward smaller government over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    I can agree to an extent, although the reason I support Trump is because populism is needed at the moment. For far too long, both parties have embraced globalism. We need some nationalism to protect some of our interests. Trump is the only guy running that has that focus.

    If the Democrats would run a nationalist that is supportive of gun rights and restrictive toward immigration, then sure, I'd vote for him/her. Granted, they wouldn't really be a Democrat at that point.
    Populism is a tactic. Both globalists and nationalists use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Populism is a tactic. Both globalists and nationalists use it.
    I should clarify then. I only like the nationalist variety of it.

    Most of the time, I see globalists use a different tactic -- appeal to authority. Globalists usually have a lot of media connections, so they go with angles where they try to portray all opposition as uneducated or just ignorant (like with the Brexit conflict). They also tend to dominate academia with propaganda.

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    This is my opinion based on months of reading, its not scientific nor guaranteed to be accurate, its just my opinion.

    Never Trumpers who claim conservative purity for hating Trump, really hate that he took their behind the scenes power and control that they always had. Its all about BIG MONEY, big power brokers, big corporations. Theyve lost their influence with the White House and lost their guarantee that they get what they want.

    The last straw was Tariffs the never trumpers HATE them because it costs them money, trump placed tariffs in the hope it would force them to bring jobs back to america, he didnt put tariffs to make the rich and powerful richer.

    If trump was letting the never trumpers run the whitehouse like they always have with GOP Potus, they would be Forever Trumpers, they would declare him the best Potus since Reagan. Who shafted the working class and gave to the rich. His most famous act was to give tax cuts to the Rich and cut social security.

    Read up on the Social Security Act of 1983
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    I should clarify then. I only like the nationalist variety of it.

    Most of the time, I see globalists use a different tactic -- appeal to authority. Globalists usually have a lot of media connections, so they go with angles where they try to portray all opposition as uneducated or just ignorant (like with the Brexit conflict). They also tend to dominate academia with propaganda.
    Agreed. And when nationalism moves to appeal to authority it is dangerous as well. 1933 rings a bell.

    But we nationalists cannot allow globalists to cow us into capitulation with their false arguments, because if we do we lose everything.

    The globalists win.

    That means a heard of 3rd world migrants flooding our nation for our wealth.

    If you think uneducated migrants are going to puff the social security and medicaid rolls rather than drain them? Please don't admit that you are that stupid.

    Totally revamp the migration system: outside of marriage (verified as legit*) merit only. Anyone who slips past and is discovered to be a ward of the State is tossed over the closest border.

    * marriage visas are a major fraud rout that is outside this discussion.
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