The Constitution

[Nemo]

I have read the Constitution many times, and with every reading I am amazed by this singular document - this blueprint of the structure and function of our government, this guarantee of our rights and liberty by law - it is unique. It is deceptively simple (only 4,400 words), but on closer examination, its parts have the intricacy and precision of the most complicated timepiece made by George Daniels. It is a masterpiece. It has suffered some bumps and bruises over the years, and it has undergone more than a few amendments; but it has withstood the test of time. I think that we are most fortunate to have this great treasure that is our Constitution.

[Iron-Merc]

Its a masterpiece from God that's why it did so well for so many years to represent true freedom and liberty in a cold world - and caused america to shine like a bright star

However, the democrats, very evil democrats, have perverted and exploited the constitution, and it's rule of law is almost up.

I give the constitution about 3 more weeks, then civil war

[Nemo]

If there is anything that can be gleaned from the intent of the framers of the Constitution, it is that our nation was founded on secular principles and not religious doctrine. The founding fathers well knew that the separation of church and state was the only way to preserve religious freedom. Religious wars had been waged in Europe over its union; and, indeed, some of the first colonists, the Pilgrims, came to America to escape state-sponsored religious persecution. The right to worship freely, without government interference, is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the Constitution, and not by God. It is time that people of faith reconcile themselves with this fundamental fact.

[Iron-Merc]

If there is anything that can be gleaned from the intent of the framers of the Constitution, it is that our nation was founded on secular principles and not religious doctrine. The founding fathers well knew that the separation of church and state was the only way to preserve religious freedom. Religious wars had been waged in Europe over its union; and, indeed, some of the first colonists, the Pilgrims, came to America to escape state-sponsored religious persecution. The right to worship freely, without government interference, is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the Constitution, and not by God. It is time that people of faith reconcile themselves with this fundamental fact.

God gives us inalienable rights in the Declaration of Independence

And the rest of your post is liberal hogwash

Do not be deceived people!

[Nemo]

Contrary to popular belief, the Declaration of Independence was not a foundational document; it was a declaration of our independence from colonial rule by the English Monarchy, and an act of war. It was also, idealistically, a pretty piece of propaganda! Likewise, it may come as a surprise for some to learn that Thomas Jefferson's ideas about natural rights were not adopted by the framers of the Constitution. (Jefferson was not a framer of the Constitution. He was serving as the ambassador to France at the time of the Constitutional Convention, and except for his correspondence with some of the delegates, what resulted was largely the work of James Madison. Even his draft Constitution and Declaration of Rights for Virginia was rejected in favor of the model of George Mason.) Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. . . ." The framework of our government, however, did not incorporate the ideals expressed by Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence. The intoxicating ideas of Rousseau and Locke that Jefferson so admired, and that inspired our revolution (and that of France as well), gave way to a more sober expression of our rights and freedoms in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The framers of our Constitution created a nation of laws and not men, which represents a compromise between the rights of individuals and the power of the state. Under the Constitution, all men are not created equal, they are equal under the law; and the rights to "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" are not unalienable, they are subject to law. In this compromise - this social contract that is our Constitution - rests the security of our individual rights and liberty.

[Ethereal]

Contrary to popular belief, the Declaration of Independence was not a foundational document...

Absolute nonsense.

[Iron-Merc]

Contrary to popular belief, the Declaration of Independence was not a foundational document; it was a declaration of our independence from colonial rule by the English Monarchy, and an act of war. It was also, idealistically, a pretty piece of propaganda! Likewise, it may come as a surprise for some to learn that Thomas Jefferson's ideas about natural rights were not adopted by the framers of the Constitution. (Jefferson was not a framer of the Constitution. He was serving as the ambassador to France at the time of the Constitutional Convention, and except for his correspondence with some of the delegates, what resulted was largely the work of James Madison. Even his draft Constitution and Declaration of Rights for Virginia was rejected in favor of the model of George Mason.) Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. . . ." The framework of our government, however, did not incorporate the ideals expressed by Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence. The intoxicating ideas of Rousseau and Locke that Jefferson so admired, and that inspired our revolution (and that of France as well), gave way to a more sober expression of our rights and freedoms in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The framers of our Constitution created a nation of laws and not men, which represents a compromise between the rights of individuals and the power of the state. Under the Constitution, all men are not created equal, they are equal under the law; and the rights to "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" are not unalienable, they are subject to law. In this compromise - this social contract that is our Constitution - rests the security of our individual rights and liberty.

This person is 100% brainwashed

DO NOT BE DECEIVED PEOPLE!

The treasonous liberals are attempting to incite a civil war!

[EvilCat Breath]

The Declaration of independence is not a foundational document. Aside from a brief preamble it has nothing to do with the formation of or running of the government. It is a petition for separation. It is a notice to the Crown of Intolerable Acts which form the desire for independence.

[Chris]

I would argue the Declaration of Independence was foundational to the Revolution and the Articles of Confederation. The Constitution was counter-revolutionary.

[Ethereal]

The Declaration of independence is not a foundational document. Aside from a brief preamble it has nothing to do with the formation of or running of the government. It is a petition for separation. It is a notice to the Crown of Intolerable Acts which form the desire for independence.

More nonsense.