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    democrats bad faith impeachment

    From its earliest days, the Democrat quest to remove Trump has resembled the Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote. Democrats in hot pursuit of the elusive Trump proposed to remove him for virtually any sin that came to mind, only to see their efforts foiled.
    One early Democrat article of impeachment would have removed the president for “sowing discord among the people of the United States” with controversial comments on Charlottesville, transgender troops, and Muslim immigration. Another Democrat attempt suggested removing Trump for attacking NFL players who did not stand for the national anthem. Then there was a proposal to remove him for tweeting about federal judges.
    Others sought to impeach Trump for allegedly violating the Constitution’s Emoluments Clause. Finally, of course, many Democrats hoped to remove the president over the Trump-Russia affair.
    Anticipation built for years, reaching a peak several months ago, just before the release of the Mueller report. And then, disappointment.
    The core of the Democrat case against Trump was the allegation that Russia and the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated to fix the 2016 election. Many Democrats believed deeply that Trump was guilty, and sometimes fevered speculation filled countless hours on cable TV. But Robert Mueller could not even establish that conspiracy or coordination even happened, much less that Trump was guilty.
    Some Democrats still hoped to impeach Trump for allegedly obstructing justice. Mueller’s report strongly suggested that Trump had committed obstruction, yet — in a move that angered Democrats — declined to reach a conclusion on the charge. Then, in July, Mueller made an underwhelming appearance on Capitol Hill. The air quickly seeped out of the impeachment balloon.
    Then — voila! — up popped the Ukraine affair. Democrats saw a final opportunity to impeach Trump. They immediately began cutting corners to make it happen as quickly as possible.
    First, Pelosi and her chosen impeachment czar, Rep. Adam Schiff, chose to skip the investigative stage that preceded earlier impeachments. The cases of both Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton involved extensive inquiries by special prosecutors who served as fact-finders. The same was true of the Mueller investigation.
    But Mueller did not give Democrats what they wanted. Plus, he took two years to do it. Instead of calling for a special counsel investigation, Pelosi and Schiff decided to handle the investigating themselves, greatly increasing the chances they would reach the result they wanted.




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    It’s a strange standard to apply to a situation of Pelosi’s own making. Does she really think any legislation will move now that she’s taken the remarkable step of opening an impeachment inquiry? Impeachment, by its very nature, stops all other legislation. If the House does impeach, which it certainly will, nothing but the impeachment trial can be taken up in the Senate. Until this whole thing is over and done with, it’s all Congress is going to do.


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    lets not forget some democrats were calling for impeachment the first day trump took office.
    sounds more like bitter spite to me.

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    resident Trump was only in office two weeks before a Democratic congressman called for his impeachment. On Feb. 1, 2017, mere days after the Trump’s inauguration, Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Texas) said the House should consider impeaching the president in the event he doesn’t abide by court orders related to his travel ban.
    President Trump did end up abiding by these court orders, but that didn’t stop Democrats’ calls for impeachment. Over the ensuing months, and years, Democrats have regularly come up with reasons why they should impeach the president.
    At current count, Democrats have proffered 96 different reasons for impeaching Trump.
    Below you’ll see a news list we’ve cross-posted from our sister site, NewsLists.co — the original is here — which is displayed chronologically.
    By far the Democrats coming up with the most reasons for impeachment are Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) and Rep. Al Green (D-Texas). At current count, Waters has produced 14 different reasons she thinks Trump’s impeachable; Green’s come up with 18.
    A few of the more interesting: Rep. Green suggested impeaching Trump after his supporters chanted “send her back” in reference to Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.); Rep. Waters has said he should be impeached simply for being “despicable.”
    Those, of course, are just a sampling. See below for the comprehensive list. And if we’re missing any, you can add more by visiting NewsLists.co.
    # Summary Date Source Accuser
    1 For potentially ignoring court orders on his travel ban 02/01/2017 MSNBC Joaquin Castro
    2 Because "we have to" 02/06/2017 Grabien Maxine Waters
    3 For "creating chaos and division" 02/06/2017 CNN Maxine Waters
    4 For potentially supplying damaging information 02/20/2017 MSNBC Jerry Nadler
    5 For trying to "undermine Hillary Clinton and therefore undermine our democracy" 03/23/2017 Grabien Maxine Waters
    6 Because his "motives and actions are contemptible" 04/15/2017 NTK Network Maxine Waters
    7 For "collusion" 05/11/2017 MSNBC Maxine Waters
    8 Because "he regards himself as above the law" 05/14/2017 ABC Lawrence Tribe
    9 For firing Comey 05/15/2017 MSNBC Al Green
    10 For allegedly disclosing classified info to Russia 05/16/2017 The Washington Free Beacon Maxine Waters
    11 For Comey saying Trump asked him to drop Flynn probe 05/17/2017 MSNBC Jerry Nadler
    12 For being "mentally unstable" 05/22/2017 MSNBC Ron Reagan
    13 Because they've been able to "connect the dots" 05/28/2017 MSNBC Maxine Waters
    14 Because "a plurality of polls" supports it 06/07/2017 ABC News Al Green
    15 For being "abnormal" and possibly "crazy" 07/07/2017 NTK Network Maxine Waters
    16 For banning transgenders from serving in the military 10/11/2017 Grabien Al Green
    17 For "disrespecting and disparaging women" 10/11/2017 CSPAN Al Green
    18 For saying NFL athletes should stand for the national anthem 10/19/2017 CSPAN Al Green
    19 For being "friends" with Putin 10/24/2017 CNN Maxine Waters
    20 For being "a clear and present danger" to Americans 10/25/2017 MSNBC Tom Steyer
    21 For "putting the health and safety of Americans at risk" 10/28/2017 MSNBC Tom Steyer
    22 For being an "inciter" of "ethnocentrism" 11/08/2017 CSPAN Al Green
    23 For promoting "xenophobia" 11/08/2017 CSPAN Al Green
    24 For inciting "bigotry" 11/08/2017 CSPAN Al Green
    25 For being an "inciter" of "hatred" 11/08/2017 CSPAN Al Green
    26 For "undermining the federal judiciary" 11/15/2017 Grabien Steve Cohen
    27 For mocking a disabled journalist 11/16/2017 Bloomberg Maxine Waters
    28 For the "Access Hollywood" tape 11/16/2017 Bloomberg Maxine Waters
    29 For "threatening the media" 11/18/2017 MSNBC John Yarmuth
    30 For "taking money from foreign governments" 11/26/2017 CNN Tom Steyer
    31 For "dereliction of duty" 12/03/2017 MSNBC Ted Lieu
    32 For being incompetent 12/04/2017 MSNBC Ezra Klein
    33 For bringing "dishonor" upon the United States 12/06/2017 CSPAN Al Green
    34 For being "psychologically deranged" 12/16/2017 MSNBC Richard Painter
    35 For being "racist, sexist, and Islamaphobic" 12/30/2017 MSNBC Anushay Hossain
    36 For not believing in the Constitution 12/30/2017 MSNBC Karine Jean-Pierre
    37 For being "unfit" for office 01/08/2018 MSNBC Tom Steyer
    38 For saying some countries are "$#@!holes" 01/14/2018 MSNBC Al Green
    39 For his aides talking to Russians 01/26/2018 CNN Cory Booker
    40 For urging Sessions to investigate Hillary 02/28/2018 MSNBC Chris Hayes
    41 For not being respectful 03/04/2018 MSNBC Maxine Waters
    42 For being "the most dangerous president in American history" 03/05/2018 MSNBC Tom Perez
    43 For name calling 03/12/2018 MSNBC Maxine Waters
    44 For A.G. Sessions firing Andrew McCabe 03/16/2018 MSNBC Danny Cevallos
    45 For violating the "emoluments clause" 03/20/2018 MSNBC Tom Steyer
    46 For possibly considering "firing" Mueller 03/23/2018 CNN Ted Lieu
    47 For being "unwilling to make it clear" Russians can't hack America's "critical infrastructure" 03/26/2018 MSNBC John Garamendi
    48 For being "unworthy" and "despicable" 03/27/2018 MSNBC Maxine Waters
    49 Because "we have the grounds to do it" 06/27/2018 CNN Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    50 For staffing Trump Tower with park rangers 01/16/2019 MSNBC Rashida Tlaib
    51 For the BuzzFeed report on Cohen 01/18/2019 MSNBC Eugene Robinson
    52 For the "so many things" he has done 01/20/2019 MSNBC Maxine Waters
    53 Because Virginia's governor wore blackface 02/08/2019 CSPAN Al Green
    54 To prevent his re-election 05/04/2019 MSNBC Al Green
    55 Because the "system of checks and balances is at risk" 05/15/2019 C-SPAN Al Green
    56 To prevent a "monarchy" 05/15/2019 C-SPAN Al Green
    57 For not releasing his tax returns 05/16/2019 Campaign Ad Tom Steyer
    58 To put a "stain" on his presidency 05/25/2019 MSNBC Karine Jean-Pierre
    59 Because it's "critical to our national security" 05/27/2019 MSNBC Richard Painter
    60 Because it would be "crazy not to do it" 05/30/2019 CNN John Hickenlooper
    61 In order to "set a precedent" for future presidents 06/01/2019 MSNBC Karine Jean-Pierre
    62 Because we have a "moral obligation" 06/02/2019 CNN Cory Booker
    63 Because it will help "educate" and "inform" the American public 06/03/2019 MSNBC Mike Quigley
    64 Because the president "is leaving us no choice" 06/04/2019 CNN Dan Kildee
    65 Because it's our "constitutional duty" to "have this debate" 06/08/2019 MSNBC Seth Moulton
    66 For failing to "produce evidence" 06/10/2019 CNN Steve Cohen
    67 For saying the press is the "enemy of the people" 06/10/2019 CNN Steve Cohen
    68 For saying he'd take "dirt" on rivals from foreigners 06/13/2019 CNN Steve Cohen
    69 For Kellyanne Conway's alleged Hatch Act violation 06/14/2019 MSNBC Richard Painter
    70 To ensure Robert Mueller's work is continued 06/19/2019 NTK Network Katie Porter
    71 For being "above the law" 07/11/2019 C-SPAN Al Green
    72 For "inhumane" conditions at the border 07/15/2019 MSNBC Rashida Tlaib
    73 For "high crimes and misdemeanors" 07/15/2019 MSNBC Ilhan Omar
    74 For administration officials defying congressional subpoenas 07/16/2019 C-SPAN Ann Kirkpatrick
    75 For saying fellow Americans should "go back to other countries" 07/17/2019 C-SPAN Al Green
    76 For Trump crowd's "send her back" chant 07/18/2019 CNN Al Green
    77 For attacks on the judiciary 07/19/2019 MSNBC Steve Cohen
    78 Because we're in a "constitutional crisis" 07/25/2019 C-SPAN Al Green
    79 For offering to host G7 summit at Doral 08/31/2019 MSNBC House Judiciary Committee
    80 For influencing the decision of the new FBI building's location 08/31/2019 MSNBC Mike Quigley
    81 For publicising his own assets 08/31/2019 MSNBC Mike Quigley
    82 For suggesting a company for Army Corps to award wall production contract 08/31/2019 MSNBC Richard Painter
    83 For talking like Hitler 08/31/2019 MSNBC Richard Painter
    84 Because every new impeachable offense makes it harder to take action 08/31/2019 MSNBC David Cicilline
    85 To ensure "our democracy" is "saved" 09/10/2019 MSNBC Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    86 For investigating Hunter Biden 09/22/2019 CNN Adam Schiff
    87 For "hijacking" American foreign policy 09/23/2019 MSNBC Chris Hayes
    88 For betraying his oath of office 09/24/2019 Politico Nancy Pelosi
    89 For "coercing" a foreign government 09/25/2019 MSNBC Matthew Miller
    90 For "extorting" a foreign government 09/25/2019 MSNBC Matthew Miller
    91 For "intimidating" the whistleblower 10/01/2019 ABC Jon Karl
    92 For Kurt Volker's text messages with Ukraine 10/04/2019 CNN Jim Himes
    93 For being a "traitor" 10/06/2019 CNN Joe Walsh
    94 For blocking US ambassador to EU from testifying 10/08/2019 Washington Examiner Adam Schiff
    95 For likening impeachment to "lynching" 10/22/2019 CSPAN Al Green
    96 For pronouncing November 'National American History and Founders Month' 11/05/2019 Twitter Rashida Tlaib
    97 For "intimidation" of witness Yovanovitch with tweets 11/15/2019 CNN Eric Swalwell
    98 For 'trying to use the court system' 11/22/2019 Washington Free Beacon Pramila Jayapal

    yes indeed the nut bags have spoken

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletbob View Post
    From its earliest days, the Democrat quest to remove Trump has resembled the Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote. Democrats in hot pursuit of the elusive Trump proposed to remove him for virtually any sin that came to mind, only to see their efforts foiled.
    One early Democrat article of impeachment would have removed the president for “sowing discord among the people of the United States” with controversial comments on Charlottesville, transgender troops, and Muslim immigration. Another Democrat attempt suggested removing Trump for attacking NFL players who did not stand for the national anthem. Then there was a proposal to remove him for tweeting about federal judges.
    Others sought to impeach Trump for allegedly violating the Constitution’s Emoluments Clause. Finally, of course, many Democrats hoped to remove the president over the Trump-Russia affair.
    Anticipation built for years, reaching a peak several months ago, just before the release of the Mueller report. And then, disappointment.
    The core of the Democrat case against Trump was the allegation that Russia and the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated to fix the 2016 election. Many Democrats believed deeply that Trump was guilty, and sometimes fevered speculation filled countless hours on cable TV. But Robert Mueller could not even establish that conspiracy or coordination even happened, much less that Trump was guilty.
    Some Democrats still hoped to impeach Trump for allegedly obstructing justice. Mueller’s report strongly suggested that Trump had committed obstruction, yet — in a move that angered Democrats — declined to reach a conclusion on the charge. Then, in July, Mueller made an underwhelming appearance on Capitol Hill. The air quickly seeped out of the impeachment balloon.
    Then — voila! — up popped the Ukraine affair. Democrats saw a final opportunity to impeach Trump. They immediately began cutting corners to make it happen as quickly as possible.
    First, Pelosi and her chosen impeachment czar, Rep. Adam Schiff, chose to skip the investigative stage that preceded earlier impeachments. The cases of both Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton involved extensive inquiries by special prosecutors who served as fact-finders. The same was true of the Mueller investigation.
    But Mueller did not give Democrats what they wanted. Plus, he took two years to do it. Instead of calling for a special counsel investigation, Pelosi and Schiff decided to handle the investigating themselves, greatly increasing the chances they would reach the result they wanted.




    https://washingtonnewsdaily.com/the-...h-impeachment/



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    It’s a strange standard to apply to a situation of Pelosi’s own making. Does she really think any legislation will move now that she’s taken the remarkable step of opening an impeachment inquiry? Impeachment, by its very nature, stops all other legislation. If the House does impeach, which it certainly will, nothing but the impeachment trial can be taken up in the Senate. Until this whole thing is over and done with, it’s all Congress is going to do.


    https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/02...hment-inquiry/

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    lets not forget some democrats were calling for impeachment the first day trump took office.
    sounds more like bitter spite to me.
    You do know that's kinda their job, right?
    "Everybody knew".

    Ambassador Gordon Sonland, 11/20/2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    You do know that's kinda their job, right?
    that is NOT their only job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    You do know that's kinda their job, right?
    Which of the 98 reasons do you perfer or do you want to impeach him 98 times

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    It is a soft coup. The legal system should handle the coup plotters and their supporters.

    Don't cry to me about the potential penalties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    that is NOT their only job.
    Working together to pass legislation has always been our government's job.
    "Everybody knew".

    Ambassador Gordon Sonland, 11/20/2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletbob View Post
    Which of the 98 reasons do you perfer or do you want to impeach him 98 times
    List them off, I'll point out the ones I like.
    "Everybody knew".

    Ambassador Gordon Sonland, 11/20/2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    It is a soft coup. The legal system should handle the coup plotters and their supporters.

    Don't cry to me about the potential penalties.
    Lol @"soft coup".

    For realz.
    "Everybody knew".

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    There was a list. I believe 98 times the Dems have said ...Impeach him. I didn't know it was that many, however have heard many times it started at the beginning of his term. It's totally disgusting...imo.. they would ever consider holding this weeks Impeachment hearings while the long scheduled NATO meeting is on...and then...say to the President...well you can attend the hearing.

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