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    Climate Change

    What is the insuperable line?
    How much evidence must there be
    To prove what is plain for all to see?
    Must there be unanimous consent -
    Are we now ruled by sole dissent -
    In the progress of time?
    . . .

    Global warming is a fact. It is happening, and at an accelerated rate. The ice is melting. The grim speed of the glacial retreat is there for all to see. It can no longer be denied. There is no point in arguing: the continued debate over the cause has all the absurdity of arguing over shuffleboard scores on a sinking Titanic. We are past the tipping point in the natural balance; and there is nothing that can be done to counteract the colossal elemental forces now set in motion. It is unstoppable. All that can be done at this late date is to deal with the inevitable consequences that are predictable, if not calculable to a mathematical certainty. It is only a matter of time.

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    As a luke warmist who accepts some degree of climate change, the question I have to ask is how do we approach solutions to this problem?

    Do we follow the liberals, hand it all over to the government to spend money we don't have tied to various socialist equality agendas? http://IPCC Models: Climate Policies...g this Century is an in-depth analysis that says depending on the government is a losing proposition.

    Or do we depend on the market to innovate solutions that we the people buy into? I refer you to Bjorn Lomborg, for example, Climate change activists are focused on all the wrong solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    What is the insuperable line?
    How much evidence must there be
    To prove what is plain for all to see?
    Must there be unanimous consent -
    Are we now ruled by sole dissent -
    In the progress of time?
    . . .

    Global warming is a fact. It is happening, and at an accelerated rate. The ice is melting. The grim speed of the glacial retreat is there for all to see. It can no longer be denied. There is no point in arguing: the continued debate over the cause has all the absurdity of arguing over shuffleboard scores on a sinking Titanic. We are past the tipping point in the natural balance; and there is nothing that can be done to counteract the colossal elemental forces now set in motion. It is unstoppable. All that can be done at this late date is to deal with the inevitable consequences that are predictable, if not calculable to a mathematical certainty. It is only a matter of time.
    How does taxing people, stop a natural event?

    Is the time not better spent in finding ways for humans, flora and fauna to adapt to a slowly warming environment? After all, at the rate of temperature increase, we only have a few thousand years to figure it out.
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    For Mankind to Move Ahead, the Left Needs to Be Left Behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    How much evidence must there be
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    . . .

    It can no longer be denied. There is no point in arguing: the continued debate over the cause has all the absurdity of arguing over shuffleboard scores on a sinking Titanic.
    Before they got into this faith, the Warmalarmies had proved to be enemies of human progress. That's why many of us don't take seriously anything new they get into. We don't have to bone up on the issue; there's no reason to bother debating boneheads. It would be the same way if any other fringe group made a new addition to its agenda. The media have a special fondness for the New Age creeps, they been promoting this spoiled degenerate trash since the 60s. That's the only reason this toxic cult has not been relegated to the tabloids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    What is the insuperable line?
    How much evidence must there be
    To prove what is plain for all to see?
    Must there be unanimous consent -
    Are we now ruled by sole dissent -
    In the progress of time?
    . . .

    Global warming is a fact. It is happening, and at an accelerated rate. The ice is melting. The grim speed of the glacial retreat is there for all to see. It can no longer be denied. There is no point in arguing: the continued debate over the cause has all the absurdity of arguing over shuffleboard scores on a sinking Titanic. We are past the tipping point in the natural balance; and there is nothing that can be done to counteract the colossal elemental forces now set in motion. It is unstoppable. All that can be done at this late date is to deal with the inevitable consequences that are predictable, if not calculable to a mathematical certainty. It is only a matter of time.
    Why is the Hubbard Glacier growing? Someone needs to tell it to stop - bad form, indeed. Why can't it act like a melting glacier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    What is the insuperable line?
    How much evidence must there be
    To prove what is plain for all to see?
    Must there be unanimous consent -
    Are we now ruled by sole dissent -
    In the progress of time?
    . . .

    Global warming is a fact. It is happening, and at an accelerated rate. The ice is melting. The grim speed of the glacial retreat is there for all to see. It can no longer be denied. There is no point in arguing: the continued debate over the cause has all the absurdity of arguing over shuffleboard scores on a sinking Titanic. We are past the tipping point in the natural balance; and there is nothing that can be done to counteract the colossal elemental forces now set in motion. It is unstoppable. All that can be done at this late date is to deal with the inevitable consequences that are predictable, if not calculable to a mathematical certainty. It is only a matter of time.
    What is plain to see? No statistical temperature change in the US the last two decades? No statistical trend in droughts, hurricanes, etc.? What is the 'tipping point'?

    All of this fear mongering is based on a computer model called RCP8.5 which is the least likely/worst case scenario that observed science is not following.

    For those that are unfamiliar with science, "There is no point in arguing" as the OP states.
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    It is time to face facts: climate change is happening now. There is nothing to be done. There is no point in pointing the accusing finger. The damage has been done; it cannot be undone. All we can do is deal with the consequences; which. for us, will be catastrophic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemo View Post
    It is time to face facts: climate change is happening now. There is nothing to be done. There is no point in pointing the accusing finger. The damage has been done; it cannot be undone. All we can do is deal with the consequences; which. for us, will be catastrophic.
    Great. Then stop $#@!ing about it. Prepare.
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