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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Not those specific points, but the wider, deeper picture can absolutely and factually be spun as negative. For example, yes unemployment is low - but over 13 million Americans work multiple jobs (Census Bureau), and the number may be even higher than that. Wage growth has continued to go up under Trump, but overall it's still much lower than it was in 2009 (BBC), but is overall still stagnant relative to inflation which the wage growth figures don't take into account ( Washington Post ). None of that even touches on the fact that the unemployment numbers don't take into account how many Americans just gave up looking for work for one reason or another (which, depending on how you count it, could be as high as 94 million, The Nation)

    The obvious conclusion is that while some figures like unemployment, the stock market, and wage growth look good, larger factors that spell systemic trouble look bad, like the constantly rising cost of living forcing Americans to work multiple jobs just to get by (which kinda dispels the notion that wage growth is in a good place - if it was, nobody would need to work multiple jobs).

    This isn't Trump's problem solely, by the way. It's an issue that has been growing to some degree or another since the 1970s.
    You’re wrong. Most of the jobs created now are ones in which one person can support a family. They are mostly career jobs, not jobs which supplement a primary income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    You’re wrong. Most of the jobs created now are ones in which one person can support a family. They are mostly career jobs, not jobs which supplement a primary income.
    I'm not wrong, I see this stuff every day. It's a fact. Maybe it looks different from Mexico.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
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    It would be a hoot to see the Democrat’s nominee run against the economy, assuming it stays on the current trajectory.

    Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    I'm not wrong, I see this stuff every day. It's a fact. Maybe it looks different from Mexico.
    You’re wrong, but you’re free to maintain that position. I’m not in Mexico.

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    We still are creating jobs which are either entry level or those which supplement another income, but most new jobs now are substantial career jobs where one can support a family and attain a decent degree of upward mobility.

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    So all the deflections onto other issues still doesn't change the fact that a good portion of Demos will be voting for Trump. Like they did the first time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    So all the deflections onto other issues still doesn't change the fact that a good portion of Demos will be voting for Trump. Like they did the first time.
    There's a strong possibility that the Democrats have a brokered / contested convention and none of the current candidates will be the nominee. If that happens it could change what the Trump voting Democrats do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    There's a strong possibility that the Democrats have a brokered / contested convention and none of the current candidates will be the nominee. If that happens it could change what the Trump voting Democrats do.
    The DNC wont allow that to happen. More than likely they decided who their candidate is going to be already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The DNC wont allow that to happen. More than likely they decided who their candidate is going to be already.
    Obama might force that to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    You’re wrong. Most of the jobs created now are ones in which one person can support a family. They are mostly career jobs, not jobs which supplement a primary income.
    There is no such thing as a career job. People today follow the money. I’m talking about the private work force.
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