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    The 2 Confusing Definitions of Racism

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    Colloquial Definition One: Racism is treating someone differently (usually badly) because of their race.

    In R(1), racism is determined entirely by the actions of individuals. An act is racist if that act treats someone differently based on their race, and a person is racist if the person commits racist acts. This is important to understand, because itís an individualist definition, not a collectivist one. If a collection, group, or society is racist under R(1), itís because the individuals within that collective predominantly do racist things, as defined within R(1). Conversely, if a collective does not do racist things, the collective isnít racist.


    Colloquial Definition Two: ďRacism = Prejudice + PowerĒ

    In R(2), racism is institutionalized in hierarchies of societal power. R(2) adherents do not view governments, corporations, or other organizations as collections of individuals making individual choices. They view them as monolithic structures laid over society that have their own means and goals. It is a collectivist interpretation, as opposed to an individualist interpretation, of the world. To an R(2) adoptee, nobody can be racist if they arenít in the dominant group, no matter how prejudiced they are, because they lack one of the two variables in the equation.


    As the writer points out, the 2nd definition is problematic on various levels. It serves as an excuse for minorities to behave however they please, and it removes any sense of individual accountability (or innocence).

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    Racism is not confusing to me. I don't walk into a store and judge them by skin color. I don't like Antifa becasue of the way they act and attack. Their mostly white skin doesn't make me dislike them. If you have all black skin people running into a store, looting and breaking things, it's not their skin I dislike, it's their actions. I have met some of the nicest people who don't look like me but I have also met some of the nastiest people who did and didn't.

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    That's the most logical way of looking at it, but the SJWs and Marxists disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    That's the most logical way of looking at it, but the SJWs and Marxists disagree.
    When I was born and I have said it before, they called my skin olive. So raised on a farm out in the sun, I was accused of being Native American by many people. Now it didn't bother me but my sisters thought it was funny. I would have never wanted to be judged by what I looked like good or bad. I wanted to be judged on how I acted and what was in my heart. I think most people want this. Marxist just want to divide people.

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    I define racism by the liberal handbook . if you are a white person and you find yourself in a sea of minorities or even the head Habib, Habib himself just stop drop and roll. Stop to offer them praise and asking Allah to forgive all of thee me. Drop to your knees in praise of them
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    The terms :" Racist" and Racism" have no meaning anymore.
    It has been over used and abused so long.
    Everything someone does not like is racist or caused by racism.
    It has become a GO TO reaction.

    There are so many R cards thrown around by everyone, they are useless and have no affect.

    Now those terms are greeted with a yawn and a, " so what else is new".
    NONE ARE HELPLESS...There are only those WEAK ENOUGH to believe they are...and those STRONG ENOUGH to revel in the knowledge they are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
    The terms :" Racist" and Racism" have no meaning anymore.
    It has been over used and abused so long.
    Everything someone does not like is racist or caused by racism.
    It has become a GO TO reaction.

    There are so many R cards thrown around by everyone, they are useless and have no affect.

    Now those terms are greeted with a yawn and a, " so what else is new".


    I agree with this. Over the past few years, the terms have gradually come to have no more meaning. At least not a meaning that gives anyone pause.

    I think it started -- or became noticeable -- around the time Obama misjudged the police officer who arrested the professor. Later, Obama invited both of them to the White House for a beer, which was smart, but it left folks scratching their heads.

    Then came the stories of Trayvon, Michael Brown, and a dozen or so more supposedly racist incidents that the media sensationalized, but which turned out to be non-starters. People started to suspect those types of tales, so it's a no-brainer that a huge swath of Americans called out Smollett before it was officially discovered that he was a pretty little liar.

    It's bad in a way, because if someone is a real victim of racism (black or white), everyone yawns when their story comes out.

    The good thing is -- racism, as we once knew it -- is over.
    "What happens is of little significance compared with the stories we tell ourselves about what happens. Events matter little, only stories of events
    affect us.Ē

    ~Rabih Alameddin


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    The term race used to mean a group of people in a geographic location sharing language and culture. It wasn't until perhaps 17th century science classified people biologically. Today it is as superficial as skin color. Postmodern identity politics has turned it into a matter of power.
    Edmund Burke: "In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I fall out only with the Abuse. The Thing! the Thing itself is the Abuse!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The term race used to mean a group of people in a geographic location sharing language and culture. It wasn't until perhaps 17th century science classified people biologically. Today it is as superficial as skin color. Postmodern identity politics has turned it into a matter of power.
    I remember in the book, " Last of the Mohicans" they said they were the last of their "race".
    Means just as you said. A group of whom share a common culture and language.
    NONE ARE HELPLESS...There are only those WEAK ENOUGH to believe they are...and those STRONG ENOUGH to revel in the knowledge they are not.

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    Only an Anti-American Ruling-Class Tyranny Could Get Away With Such an Obvious Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    When I was born and I have said it before, they called my skin olive. So raised on a farm out in the sun, I was accused of being Native American by many people. Now it didn't bother me but my sisters thought it was funny. I would have never wanted to be judged by what I looked like good or bad. I wanted to be judged on how I acted and what was in my heart. I think most people want this. Marxist just want to divide people.
    "Being judged by the color of their skin" was the biggest and most dangerous lie rabblerouser MLK ever preached. It dishonestly tries to make those who judge a race by its general character look illogical and ignorant. It's exactly the same as saying that someone who criticizes a chronically underperforming team is just against them because of the color of their uniforms.
    On the outside, trickling down on the Insiders

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