"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President
Retirednsmilin308 (12-14-2019)
That worked back when all anyone had were muskets and cannons, doesn't work so much now when you have an AR-15 and the government has ICBMs.
Besides, the whole "small number of colonists fought off the British" is a myth, they had help from the French, Spanish, Dutch, and American Indians.
"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President
Captdon (12-14-2019),Green Arrow (12-13-2019),MMC (12-16-2019)
MMC (12-16-2019),stjames1_53 (12-14-2019)
"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President
"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President
Green Arrow (12-13-2019)
Insurgency is different from conventional war. As Peter mentioned, a well armed insurgency that is willing to die for their cause can hold back a much larger conventional force. We eventually negotiated with the Taliban, for example.
Now, I agree that the likelihood of an equivalent insurgency developing here is very low, but it doesn't change the fact that small arms are very useful for insurgency and resisting larger and better armed forces.
Historically, we can also see how useful they were against the Nazis when they occupied France. If the French Resistance did not have guns, they would have been almost powerless against the Nazis.
stjames1_53 (12-14-2019)
Was that because the Taliban was difficult to fight, or was it because we went in there from the start with no real strategy, no idea who our enemies were, and no idea what our objective was? Because those factors can impact things too.
When the Italians came to Ethiopia in the lead-up to WWII, the Ethiopians met them with spears. And, well...it didn't end well for the insurgency.Now, I agree that the likelihood of an equivalent insurgency developing here is very low, but it doesn't change the fact that small arms are very useful for insurgency and resisting larger and better armed forces.
Guns obviously, objectively, make you more of a threat than not having guns. That's not really the issue here.Historically, we can also see how useful they were against the Nazis when they occupied France. If the French Resistance did not have guns, they would have been almost powerless against the Nazis.
"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President
Sure, all that plays a part as well, but if the Taliban only had IEDs to work with, they would have lost handily within a few months.
Well, as you said, they had spears. Spears are no match for guns.
In a way, I agree. The issue is that an unarmed populace is much easier to oppress than one that is armed.
If, for example, the Hong Kong protesters had guns, the Chinese government would be faced with a civil war rather than just protests that the Western media awkwardly ignores.
Guns make the difference in numerous situations, because they are an equalizer in terms of force between individuals.
It's similar to how they are useful for self-defense against criminals or for home defense.
Green Arrow (12-14-2019)