Johnson claims Brexit mandate with new conservative majority

[Rationalist]

I think it depends on how bad off they think they will be without EU membership. Northern Ireland (56%-44%) and Scotland (62%-38%) both voted overwhelmingly to Remain, while England (53%-47%) and Wales (53%-48%) voted to Leave. Scotland will almost certainly back independence if the referendum is limited to JUST the Scots (instead of the bull$#@! 2014 referendum where any EU or UK citizen residing in Scotland could vote on it), Northern Ireland could go either way depending on how the British government handles the sticky border situation between Ireland and Northern Ireland. If the British government can't provide a solid border deal with Northern Ireland, I could see them voting for independence and EU membership at the same time.

The Welsh honestly might as well just be considered British, other than having their own culture and language there's not much of a movement there for independence and they still align with the Brits on Brexit.

That makes sense. From an economic perspective, the Scots have the best shot at being self-sufficient. Northern Ireland has never really been that prosperous compared to its neighbors, and Wales is too small of an economy to really be independent in most respects.

If Northern Ireland voted for independence, it would definitely be over political reasons rather than economic reasons, whereas Scotland has a viable argument in both regards.

[kilgram]

I was a $#@! for Catalan independence, lol. I think @Ethereal was there for those discussions, and old @kilgram (who was himself Catalan). I pushed that $#@! hard.

Scotland would want to leave GB because they wanted to stay in the EU.

About Catalonia, well, they did the spectacle to distract people from their own corruption like the 3%. The Catalan government was pushed by the popular movement to try Independence. The party in the government never wanted it. Well, it fared wrongly because in the government there was not real will to get the independence.

To get the independence, I believe that the society, Catalan society in a bigger majority that it had needs to agree to get it by a legal referendum to avoid any conflict.

[Peter1469]

Good to see you.

Hope you are safe and healthy.

Scotland would want to leave GB because they wanted to stay in the EU.

About Catalonia, well, they did the spectacle to distract people from their own corruption like the 3%. The Catalan government was pushed by the popular movement to try Independence. The party in the government never wanted it. Well, it fared wrongly because in the government there was not real will to get the independence.

To get the independence, I believe that the society, Catalan society in a bigger majority that it had needs to agree to get it by a legal referendum to avoid any conflict.

[carolina73]

That makes sense. From an economic perspective, the Scots have the best shot at being self-sufficient. Northern Ireland has never really been that prosperous compared to its neighbors, and Wales is too small of an economy to really be independent in most respects.

If Northern Ireland voted for independence, it would definitely be over political reasons rather than economic reasons, whereas Scotland has a viable argument in both regards.

When I lived in Europe, I once called our companies Welsh Engineering Manager English. I did not make that mistake again despite not quite understanding what he said. The tone was all I needed to hear.
The vote is what it is. If certain territories wish to secede then they would have to deal with that.

Scotland is far more dependent on the UK and the US than they are on the EU for their business interests.