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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Well...our corporations did indeed trade profits for domestic economic stability. Short term gain, coupled with an initial celebration by the consumers who could buy jeans for 80% less than in previous decades, eventually turned to crap. As Perot stated back in the day about 'that sucking sound'...our jobs fled this country with the speed of a hurricane.

    Corporations love it. They sit on record levels of cash since Obama's tenure. Operative word being 'sit'.

    Re. the quality of products made in China...that's all on the corporations. Especially Home Depot/Lowes/Walmart, who buy in such quantity that they decide what the quality will be. No matter the brand name. If you buy a Bosch tool from Scintilla in Switzerland, it's not the same as a Bosch tool purchased in H.D/Lowes. Not even close. Same with John Deere and a host of other products.

    The Chinese only do what we tell them to do.

    Unless, of course, they're knocking off our designs and selling them even cheaper.
    Is that why Trump had to introduce tariffs?








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    If people only listen to American versions of ‘news’ they’re going to get a very one-sided reflection of how the world really is. The reality is often very different. I lived in China for eight years, lived a middle-class lifestyle and saved up enough to pay off the mortgage on a two bedroom retirement house in S.E. Asia. I saw pockets of rural poverty, but I also saw wealth in cities that is unimaginable to most westerners. I didn’t see Antifa riots, drug dealers on street corners, mass shootings and there were no ‘no-go’ areas anywhere. That’s not an idealized view, that’s how it was. For that I had to obey harsh foreigner immigration rules which included no criticism of the party and no public evangelism. A small price to pay.


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    Double post.










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    Quote Originally Posted by Refugee View Post
    Is that why Trump had to introduce tariffs?
    Who said trump had to? Besides trump, that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Refugee View Post
    If people only listen to American versions of ‘news’ they’re going to get a very one-sided reflection of how the world really is. The reality is often very different. I lived in China for eight years, lived a middle-class lifestyle and saved up enough to pay off the mortgage on a two bedroom retirement house in S.E. Asia. I saw pockets of rural poverty, but I also saw wealth in cities that is unimaginable to most westerners. I didn’t see Antifa riots, drug dealers on street corners, mass shootings and there were no ‘no-go’ areas anywhere. That’s not an idealized view, that’s how it was. For that I had to obey harsh foreigner immigration rules which included no criticism of the party and no public evangelism. A small price to pay.


    You're saying that a communist society is better than a free society?

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    I know what I need to know about China. They have abused their relationship with the world by stealing IP and using it to profit. They use our system to take advantage of us and don’t want a fair landscape.

    Past that all the stuff posted is blah blah blah. It’s written like nobody has a clue but you because you travelled there.

    I am clear on China and their plans. Trump said no! Thank God. Time to even this up a little. Oh yeah same to the rest of the countries at the proverbial troff.
    I am tired of everyone fighting with each other. This is all by design.

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