Ah, so that's the trick here, outlaw money and instantly create the imaginary post-scarcity society.
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Ah, so that's the trick here, outlaw money and instantly create the imaginary post-scarcity society.
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Safety (01-18-2020)
The OP asks what would happen if we create "Star Trek" like replicators- that is what would create a post scarcity society. Then there would be no need for money.
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Captdon (01-19-2020)
The title to the thread: "What would people do if money went away?"
Seem I understood, Who will understand--what about you?
Post-scarce scarcity is imaginary. Think in terms of space--space is always scarce for no two people can occupy the same space so there will be contention for that. Think in terms of time--you can perform only one action at a time--time is always scarce. Work, no two people can perform the same work--work too is always scarce. What happens when two want the same good or service? On and one. You have to eliminate not just money but reality to achieve post-scarcity.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
It's where we are headed. It's the direction that our scientific research is taking. 3D printing and in particular printing organs is like a sign post for things to come.
Furthermore, there has been a fairly recent technological breakthrough that is even closer to the Star Trek replicator: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmac.../#149d90a5520f
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"The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems.”
Mahatma Gandhi
Peter1469 (01-17-2020)
In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.
"The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems.”
Mahatma Gandhi
Marx believed that as well:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-scarcity_economy, the quote is from Marx, Karl (1973). Grundrisse: Foundations of the Critique of Political Economy.Karl Marx, in a section of his Grundrisse that came to be known as the "Fragment on Machines",[23][24] argued that the transition to a post-capitalist society combined with advances in automation would allow for significant reductions in labor needed to produce necessary goods, eventually reaching a point where all people would have significant amounts of leisure time to pursue science, the arts, and creative activities; a state some commentators later labeled as "post-scarcity".[25] Marx argued that capitalism—the dynamic of economic growth based on capital accumulation—depends on exploiting the surplus labor of workers, but a post-capitalist society would allow for:
The free development of individualities, and hence not the reduction of necessary labour time so as to posit surplus labour, but rather the general reduction of the necessary labour of society to a minimum, which then corresponds to the artistic, scientific etc. development of the individuals in the time set free, and with the means created, for all of them.
Interesting to find once again that Marx was an individualist.
Oh, we're headed that way? Where has Marxism succeeded? Or are we awaiting the collapse of capitalism still?
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