What would people do if money went away?

[Chris]

They are actually doing what you suppose is impossible but don't worry, you will probably be dead before any change happens that challenges your preconceived notions.

Sorry, you don't know what it even means to create a post-scarcity society. It would require intelligence humans do not possess let alone these fantastical replicators. This should have been posted on the lighter side.

[Dr. Who]

It's sad, but you should have made it a tPF thread @Dr. Who. Some people just want to argue simply because they get triggered over the name of the person creating the thread. You clearly said what if money went away but we were afforded our materialistic needs by a replicator, yet somehow people want to argue about marxism or unicorns.

I was hoping for a more philosophical discussion.

[Dr. Who]

Sorry, you don't know what it even means to create a post-scarcity society. It would require intelligence humans do not possess let alone these fantastical replicators. This should have been posted on the lighter side.

It's not fantastical at all. Scientists clearly don't feel that it's not possible. The only limitations we have are those we impose on ourselves.

[Chris]

I was hoping for a more philosophical discussion.

And where is that discussion? Repeating your beliefs and hopes in response to challenges isn't discussion.

Try this, explain to us how starting where we're at do arrive ar replicators producing a post-scarcity society. Explain the technology, economics, and politics of that. Heck, you haven't even explained the intelligence of these replicators. For far superior intelligence than we possess would be required to solve the economic problem of calculating resource allocation and knowing how to plan such an economy.

[Chris]

It's not fantastical at all. Scientists clearly don't feel that it's not possible. The only limitations we have are those we impose on ourselves.

Here's your chance to explain what you're even talking about.

[Peter1469]

It's not fantastical at all. Scientists clearly don't feel that it's not possible. The only limitations we have are those we impose on ourselves.

It is certainly possible. 3D printing is the first step.

[Dr. Who]

It is certainly possible. 3D printing is the first step.

Exactly. The minute we think of things like a replicator as more than just fantasy, science turns to figuring out the math. Much of the technology we have today wouldn't exist if we thought such things were impossible. I think that we will one day have a post-scarcity world and I don't think that we will simply turn into mushrooms when that happens. I think that we will find purpose because that's who we are as a species. The challenges that we need to drive us don't have to be existential.

[Dr. Who]

Here's your chance to explain what you're even talking about.

Had I wanted to have a technical discussion about the science, I would have posted this in the Science and Tech forum. I am looking for a discussion about how we will deal with a post-scarcity society. What will be our reason to get out of bed in the morning? What might become the new human currency if being wealthy no longer has any meaning? How will we organize and govern ourselves in a world where freedom takes on a much broader meaning than it does today?

[Chris]

Had I wanted to have a technical discussion about the science, I would have posted this in the Science and Tech forum. I am looking for a discussion about how we will deal with a post-scarcity society. What will be our reason to get out of bed in the morning? What might become the new human currency if being wealthy no longer has any meaning? How will we organize and govern ourselves in a world where freedom takes on a much broader meaning than it does today?

And had you wanted no discussion of the impossibility of this imagined post-scarcity society where should you have posted it? As I suggested earlier, perhaps on the Lighter Side.

BTW, "What will be our reason to get out of bed in the morning? What might become the new human currency if being wealthy no longer has any meaning? How will we organize and govern ourselves in a world where freedom takes on a much broader meaning than it does today?" are all questions I am asking in addition to how, given such questions, we would ever even arrive at your utopia.

But I get it, you seek only agreement with your dreams. So I'll step away.

[Ethereal]

The title to the thread: "What would people do if money went away?"








Seem I understood, Who will understand--what about you?


Post-scarce scarcity is imaginary. Think in terms of space--space is always scarce for no two people can occupy the same space so there will be contention for that. Think in terms of time--you can perform only one action at a time--time is always scarce. Work, no two people can perform the same work--work too is always scarce. What happens when two want the same good or service? On and one. You have to eliminate not just money but reality to achieve post-scarcity.

Yes, this is imaginary. That was made clear from the beginning. So WTF are you babbling about?