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    Blame Iran for Iran’s problems

    Blame Iran for Iran’s problems

    This article discusses the history of Iran from 1953 to the problems today. Interestingly, the US had little to do with the plot to remove Mossadegh and the Islamists that rule today were part of the plot to remove the PM. It is a very interesting read.

    There have been many untruths spoken about the American role in Iran since the rise of the revolutionary Islamist government in 1979. As Hassan Rouhani, the current president of Iran, radicalism of the regime.
    et us first divide the events which led to the rise of the current Islamist regime in 1979 from the events of August 1953, when an Anglo-American plot to remove Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh went into action. Too often, critics of U.S. foreign policy toward Iran conflate these two seminal events, using Washington’s role in the 1953 so-called coup to excuse the various provocations of the Iranian regime since 1979.




    Much like today (and in 1979), the Iran of 1953 was a hotbed of political uncertainty. The British and Soviets had divided the country between themselves during the Second World War when the Iranian king, known as the Shah, was rumored to be sympathetic to the Nazis. The British and Soviets forced the Shah to abdicate and hand power to his oldest son, Reza Pahlavi. The shahs had ruled Iran (previously known as Persia) since Cyrus the Great was coronated more than 2,000 years before the Second World War. Iran was a constitutional monarchy and in 1951 the Shah appointed Mohammad Mossadegh, a democratic firebrand who was both stringently anti-monarchical as well as fiercely anti-imperialist, to become prime minister. (The Iranian parliament had already nominated Mossadegh as such.)


    Iran in 1953: Cauldron of Chaos
    Read the rest of the article at the link.
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    Peter...you realize you're blowing up the Ethereal/donttread/PJL/Leftist camp of tpf arguments with this here thread start, yes? Poking the bear?

    I see a steady and consistent drum beat on this forum of how the United States is responsible for nearly 100% of all conflict and endeavor in the entire Middle East, forget Iran. You're likely to get a little backlash, prepare yourself.

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    I am always prepared.

    The biggest surprise for me in the article was that the Islamists were part of the coup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Peter...you realize you're blowing up the Ethereal/donttread/PJL/Leftist camp of tpf arguments with this here thread start, yes? Poking the bear?

    I see a steady and consistent drum beat on this forum of how the United States is responsible for nearly 100% of all conflict and endeavor in the entire Middle East, forget Iran. You're likely to get a little backlash, prepare yourself.
    The British and Soviets had divided the country between themselves during the Second World War when the Iranian king, known as the Shah, was rumored to be sympathetic to the Nazis. The British and Soviets forced the Shah to abdicate and hand power to his oldest son, Reza Pahlavi. The shahs had ruled Iran (previously known as Persia) since Cyrus the Great was coronated more than 2,000 years before the Second World War. Iran was a constitutional monarchy and in 1951 the Shah appointed Mohammad Mossadegh, a democratic firebrand who was both stringently anti-monarchical as well as fiercely anti-imperialist, to become prime minister. (The Iranian parliament had already nominated Mossadegh as such.) …..snip~



    Yes the usual culprits always forget who began what. History.....purposely avoided just to dump on the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The British and Soviets had divided the country between themselves during the Second World War when the Iranian king, known as the Shah, was rumored to be sympathetic to the Nazis. The British and Soviets forced the Shah to abdicate and hand power to his oldest son, Reza Pahlavi. The shahs had ruled Iran (previously known as Persia) since Cyrus the Great was coronated more than 2,000 years before the Second World War. Iran was a constitutional monarchy and in 1951 the Shah appointed Mohammad Mossadegh, a democratic firebrand who was both stringently anti-monarchical as well as fiercely anti-imperialist, to become prime minister. (The Iranian parliament had already nominated Mossadegh as such.) …..snip~



    Yes the usual culprits always forget who began what. History.....purposely avoided just to dump on the US.
    Because the US is the super power blocking Iran from regional hegemony. If Iranian leaders railed against the actual countries that got them to this point it wouldn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.
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    Iran is doing what other insignificant countries have done, thought they were far more powerful than they are and demand everyone cows to them.

    The rest of the world only puts up with that so long
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Because the US is the super power blocking Iran from regional hegemony. If Iranian leaders railed against the actual countries that got them to this point it wouldn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.
    Well that part is true. But then the usual culprits around here, also forget that history on purpose. Just to dump on the US and we know who that usually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well that part is true. But then the usual culprits around here, also forget that history on purpose. Just to dump on the US and we know who that usually is.
    The bad guys want a shot at top dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Iran is doing what other insignificant countries have done, thought they were far more powerful than they are and demand everyone cows to them.

    The rest of the world only puts up with that so long
    It has put up with Iran for way to long. Its like Peter said, Iran wants regional hegemony. But the clincher is.....they wouldn't stop there with just the ME.
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