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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Assuming, arguendo, that you are correct about NY/Cal, the 'strides' you seem to see will not give him those states. Nor will he get the key states in the midwest where he promised things that he hasn't delivered.


    '16 was all about change. People were willing to see what happens if they tried something different. '20 is about stability. BIG difference in those key states.


    Of course, we'll all just wait and see.
    He will not win Ca or NY. He will win the midwest. The China deal sows them up.

    Of course we have to wait and see. What we are going to see is a re-election of Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    He will not win Ca or NY. He will win the midwest. The China deal sows them up.

    Of course we have to wait and see. What we are going to see is a re-election of Trump.
    He'll win the corn belt, but not Wisconsin/Michigan again, and probably lose Pa.

    Sure...Hillary said she'd close down the coal mines and redirect the labor elsewhere. trump promised to increase coal, but instead the mines are closing. That will be interesting to watch, even though coal is typically in Red states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    The only state I think he will add is Mn.
    That will be interesting too. He aims to win the suburbs, but across the country the suburbs are abandoning him. Especially women. Clinton was the least liked candidate in history behind trump. She narrowly took Mn.

    In '18, Dems easily kept the two Senate seats, and a House seat. They won the governor's seat rather handily.

    I don't see what trump did for Mn. that would change anyone's mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Assuming, arguendo, that you are correct about NY/Cal, the 'strides' you seem to see will not give him those states. Nor will he get the key states in the midwest where he promised things that he hasn't delivered.


    '16 was all about change. People were willing to see what happens if they tried something different. '20 is about stability. BIG difference in those key states.


    Of course, we'll all just wait and see.
    NY and CA. I'll laugh along with you about that notion of taking those states. The population is just so large that the shifts give him millions of popular votes. I still have him losing NY by about 9 pts and CA by about 20 pts. No one in those states will lose sleep but that is about 3 million votes between them. CA is all about the backlash against Newsom and the Democrats left gone wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason10 View Post
    None of the Democrat candidates are even as strong as Hillary. The front runner has been caught on camera saying he'll get rid of hundreds of thousands of blue collar jobs. Ranks right up there with Mondale promising to raise taxes on the middle class.
    Hillary was all but universally hated. I can't tell you how many Democrats I talked to who said they would vote for any candidate other than Hillary. Her record was right there for all to see. Her failed policies as Secretary of State, her emails, her husband, her throwing up in a glass and then drinking it... Hillary was not as strong a candidate as celebrities and the media tried to make her out to be... The independents swing the vote and they hated her....kinda like everyone else...

    Warren and Bernie are a no-go so that leaves Biden who seems to be having a prolonged stroke if his appearances are any indications. However; I still think Biden is dangerous to the point of winning. He is moderate. He is a "guy's guy". His stance on guns and his involvement in the Ukraine could kill him bout doubtful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    That will be interesting too. He aims to win the suburbs, but across the country the suburbs are abandoning him. Especially women. Clinton was the least liked candidate in history behind trump. She narrowly took Mn.

    In '18, Dems easily kept the two Senate seats, and a House seat. They won the governor's seat rather handily.

    I don't see what trump did for Mn. that would change anyone's mind?
    I don't think that's the case at all. The Dems ran on Trump grabbing $#@!. All subsequent attempts to paint him with that brush have failed. MN will go blue but it's a blue state. It's not a swing State. Iowa, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Those are the States that will call the election.

    Hillary dominated Suburban districts but it was the rural vote that took Trump to the White House.

    Also Florida. I'm not so sure about Florida either by any means.

    Trump better hope he can get the voter turnout he got in 2016. Tall task given he has come up short on two major issues. Obamacare and the wall. Naturally his base will blame the Democrats for that and that comes with some truth but Trump had the opportunity to make a real difference in his first two years. He utterly failed on Obamacare despite trying so hard and he hasn't even really tried and when he did caved on the government shutdown with regards to the wall.

    That could hurt voter turnout.
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    Pickle, my guess is MN is going free spirit. Before it was the individual fighting with the communalists. Now it's everyone in MN fighting with the jihadists.



    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    I don't think that's the case at all. The Dems ran on Trump grabbing $#@!. All subsequent attempts to paint him with that brush have failed. MN will go blue but it's a blue state. It's not a swing State. Iowa, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Those are the States that will call the election.

    Hillary dominated Suburban districts but it was the rural vote that took Trump to the White House.

    Also Florida. I'm not so sure about Florida either by any means.

    Trump better hope he can get the voter turnout he got in 2016. Tall task given he has come up short on two major issues. Obamacare and the wall. Naturally his base will blame the Democrats for that and that comes with some truth but Trump had the opportunity to make a real difference in his first two years. He utterly failed on Obamacare despite trying so hard and he hasn't even really tried and when he did caved on the government shutdown with regards to the wall.

    That could hurt voter turnout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by testsubjectalpha View Post
    Pickle, my guess is MN is going free spirit. Before it was the individual fighting with the communalists. Now it's everyone in MN fighting with the jihadists.
    Wut? Minnesota has had and continues to have the most progressive stance with regards to Muslim refugees. They had the stabbing attack at that mall in 2016 a month and a half or so before the election and that didn't seem to have an impact. They also happen to have a problem with recruitment to radical Islamic sects but all signs point to them voting blue again so apparently not everyone is fighting with the jihadists.

    MN will go blue in 2020. I mean even with Hillary running (every excuse of a Democrat to vote Republican) they won by 2%. Even if Bernie or Warren win the primary the Democratic base will stick with them. The independents will swing Trump most likely because in my opinion only morons want a Socialist for a President but it will still go blue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    He'll win the corn belt, but not Wisconsin/Michigan again, and probably lose Pa.

    Sure...Hillary said she'd close down the coal mines and redirect the labor elsewhere. trump promised to increase coal, but instead the mines are closing. That will be interesting to watch, even though coal is typically in Red states.
    Those miners in western PA will win the state for him.

    Those autoworkers will win Michigan for him.

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    Pickle, Minneapolis/St Paul has become an embarrassment to the nation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Wut? Minnesota has had and continues to have the most progressive stance with regards to Muslim refugees. They had the stabbing attack at that mall in 2016 a month and a half or so before the election and that didn't seem to have an impact. They also happen to have a problem with recruitment to radical Islamic sects but all signs point to them voting blue again so apparently not everyone is fighting with the jihadists.

    MN will go blue in 2020. I mean even with Hillary running (every excuse of a Democrat to vote Republican) they won by 2%. Even if Bernie or Warren win the primary the Democratic base will stick with them. The independents will swing Trump most likely because in my opinion only morons want a Socialist for a President but it will still go blue.
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