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    look at the typical Russian apartment


    https://lidenz.ru/typical-russian-apartments/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletbob View Post
    look at the typical Russian apartment


    https://lidenz.ru/typical-russian-apartments/
    As in any country, it depends where you go. Is it any different in the US?









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    Quote Originally Posted by Refugee View Post
    As in any country, it depends where you go. Is it any different in the US?

    There is a difference between "typical" and housing found in Democrat run cities. Surely you are not implying that the tent cities of Los Angeles and San Francisco are typical of housing in the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    There is a difference between "typical" and housing found in Democrat run cities. Surely you are not implying that the tent cities of Los Angeles and San Francisco are typical of housing in the United States.
    Not at all, just as not all Russian apartments are typical of the old Stalinist style ‘box’ type dwellings, which is what the op is trying to imply.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Refugee View Post
    Not at all, just as not all Russian apartments are typical of the old Stalinist style ‘box’ type dwellings, which is what the op is trying to imply.

    I posted a link that tells you whats normal there. few people own it. now if you know where the average Russia has has apartments like the us please post links , show us the ac apartment with 3 br a parking garage cable alarm systems balcony' ceramic tile floors uv glass steel security doors high ceilings with 1500 sq feet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Refugee View Post
    As in any country, it depends where you go. Is it any different in the US?

    if your wealthy in Russia yea it matters but the average russia lives in poverty 3 rd world conditions . your comparing a homeless demo camp of drug addicts and mentally ill living in tents.

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    Google ‘smart Russian apartments’. What is ‘normal’ depends on your income everywhere in the world. A three garage apartment, steel security doors and 1500 sq feet is normal in America? Is this the country where an estimated 70% live from pay check to pay check and only half the country is employed? Where did you get the idea that Russians live in third world conditions and poverty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Refugee View Post
    Google ‘smart Russian apartments’. What is ‘normal’ depends on your income everywhere in the world. A three garage apartment, steel security doors and 1500 sq feet is normal in America? Is this the country where an estimated 70% live from pay check to pay check and only half the country is employed? Where did you get the idea that Russians live in third world conditions and poverty?
    not a 3 car garage daaa a 3 br apt with a garage in the basement or covered parking are this would be a family apt or condo in the usa.
    I i said a elude apt . steel doors are pretty well standard in America and alarm systems are common .

    Now its clear russia is a third world nation and poverty is a issue,the dollar is worth 63 bubbles while the Mexican peso is 18 to the dollar.
    as for poverty
    . Poverty is on the Rise in Russia

    In the early 2000s, income levels increased in Russia and drove down the poverty rate from 29 percent in 2000 to 10.7 percent in 2012. Unfortunately, the income levels didn’t remain and the poverty rate has grown slowly back to 13.5 percent in 2016.

    2. Oil is Partly to Blame

    One of the greatest threats to the Russian economy has been decreasing oil prices. In a country that greatly depends on oil, a shift in prices can be catastrophic. Given the falling oil prices over the past few years, from more than $100 per barrel to less than $30, Russia’s economy is vulnerable. Although there has been modest improvement as barrel prices are now at $60.

    3. Agriculture is Also at Fault

    As a country with vast amounts of tundra, agriculture is not a prime industry in Russia. Soil that lacks productive capabilities places a limit on economic expansion. Although Russia plays to its strength with oil, decreasing its dependency is a must. Diverse industries create jobs – something that could help alleviate poverty in Russia.

    4. Wealth Inequality is Common

    Wealth inequality exists in both developing and developed countries; including the U.S. Russia is no exception. The richest 10 percent of Russia’s population control three-fourths of wealth. This raises flags for a country with a rising poverty rate. With a dwindling middle class, Russia faces a problem on the horizon. Improving wealth distribution will take a creative solution.


    the average russian has a much poorer living standard them the USA . its GDP is about one 25 thb of America.


    now my little refugee here some more reading


    Доход (income)
    According to US Census Bureau, average individual monthly income in US is $2500. According to Rosstat, average monthly income in Russia is $700 (22000 рублей).
    Ипотека or кредит на недвижимость (mortgage or loan to purchase property)
    In America, the idea of taking out a mortgage and buying a property is pretty much introduced with mother’s milk. The very same idea has been introduced to the Russian market only about 10 years ago. However, the process of taking out a loan and purchasing property is still out of reach of most Russians, according to Vedomosti. This is due to unfavorable loan terms: typical mortgage rates are about 15% and typical mortgage term is 15 years compared to typical US mortgage rates of 4-5% and a typical term of 30 years.
    Дом (house) or квартира (apartment)
    While a typical American residence is a house (with or without the white picket fence :-), a typical Russian residence is an apartment. Inability to purchase real estate due to lack of income and unfavorable lending terms results in parents sharing their quarters with children for quite some time. In many instances, you will see two and three generations living together in one apartment.
    The room count in a typical Russian apartment is not conducted by counting bedrooms, but rather by counting all rooms with the exception of the kitchen. That means if you were told an apartment has 2 rooms, it literally has TWO rooms, plus the kitchen. A lot of Russians inherit their property from their parents, grandparents, or have received it from the government or their employer many decades ago.
    Одежда (clothing)
    A typical Russian person has about 2-3 good sweaters, 2-3 decent pairs of pants, and a couple of shirts/tops/dresses. A fairly small selection of clothing and particular care for what you have is explained by the high prices on clothing in relation to the income. An average Russian consumer (an equivalent of JC Penny, Forever 21, Kohl’s, or Gap customer) will have to pay between $35-60 for a sweater and $40-100 for a pair of jeans and $50-150 for a pair of shoes. With seasonal sales and clearance in their newborn stage, clothing takes out a decent chunk of an average Russian person’s budget. A typical American closet consists of about 10 pairs of pants, 5-10 sweaters, 10 tops/shirts, 5 dresses, 3 coats and 5-10 pairs of shoes – usually made possible by end-of-season sales, holiday sales and, sometimes, clearance. While you may pay the same amount of money for clothing in America as you would in Russia, you are spending a much smaller portion of your income, considering the averages in both countries.


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    Here are some nice apartments I am sure the average Russian can afford. After all, the average salary in Russia is around 46,000 rubles per month, or $748.00. I am sure they can easily afford those $2,000.00 a month apartments if three or four families shared a three room apartment. After all, that's a whopping 900 square feet.

    https://real-estate-moscow.com/en/flat-rent

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    Here are some nice apartments I am sure the average Russian can afford. After all, the average salary in Russia is around 46,000 rubles per month, or $748.00. I am sure they can easily afford those $2,000.00 a month apartments if three or four families shared a three room apartment. After all, that's a whopping 900 square feet.

    https://real-estate-moscow.com/en/flat-rent
    You might want to check your math. The 2000 a month unit is 645 sq feet that about the size of a one bedroom apt . im sure splitting that with 3 familys or 4 may be a russian dream but it leaves each of those 4 people with about 250 a month for food clothing transportation and entertainment each and only 165 sq foot of space each for living cooking etc and that was pretty well the cheapest they went up from there .
    Mosco is a model city for tourists these are probally ment for rich businessmen and Foreigner.
    Not the average russian most of them were 3350 to over 6000 a month if you had looked

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