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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    A new archive of factual historical information, if it's authentic, would be a good thing, seems to me. Perhaps it would shed light on why jews are historically always at the center of trouble.
    Shame on you -- they aren't.
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    The roles of the Western Powers and the USSR in the defeat of Nazi Germany were minimized during the Cold War in Soviet and liberal historiography respectively. Limited access to sources and global rivalry were the primary reasons for this. That Cold War perspectives linger among those who are not particularly interested in WW2 or in history generally is not surprising. This is just a ploy by Putin.

    That said, the USSR brought "liberation" to no one. They brought a different set of chains.
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    I shall put together a list for you. It's on my "things to do".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    I shall put together a list for you. It's on my "things to do".
    Don't bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Hold on a second Comrade. I don't know what Putin is babbling about. 1. Yes, the Soviet Union undeniably play a monster role in defeating Nazi Germany. No question about it. Anybody that suggests otherwise is being silly and massively uninformed. 2. There's also no question that the Soviet Union and the Nazi's mutually destroyed Poland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact 3. There's also no question that Russia invaded Poland, so the Poles can be forgiven for the sensitivity towards the Russians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland 4. There's also no question that during the war, that the Soviet forces stood outside Warsaw rather than come to the aid of the Jewish freedom fighters during the Warsaw uprising. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lack_o...arsaw_Uprising 5. There's also no question that after the war, that Russia took over Poland. 6. There's also no question that the Soviet Union massacred 22000 Polish officers in the Katyn Forest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre So.... the history between Poland and Russia is complicated but I think a fair reading is that the "bad guy" here is Russia and the "victim" is Poland. How can you reasonably see otherwise? In fact, Comrade Putin is making a complete fool of himself to deny what the Soviet Union has previously already admitted. Geez. Talk about Fake News.
    Poland is living in the past . The Soviet Union no longer exists , and Stalin is long dead . Poland did not suffer under Stalin near as much as Russians did . The current actions by Poland's leader , is an attempt to blatantly falsify history , and deny The truth of Russia's victory over nazi Germany

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Poland is living in the past . The Soviet Union no longer exists , and Stalin is long dead . Poland did not suffer under Stalin near as much as Russians did . The current actions by Poland's leader , is an attempt to blatantly falsify history , and deny The truth of Russia's victory over nazi Germany
    Russian aggression is not a Soviet phenomenon. The Poles know that well. So do you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Poland is living in the past . The Soviet Union no longer exists , and Stalin is long dead . Poland did not suffer under Stalin near as much as Russians did . The current actions by Poland's leader , is an attempt to blatantly falsify history , and deny The truth of Russia's victory over nazi Germany
    "Poland did not suffer under Stalin near as much as Russians did" is like saying "The beat wife suffered more than the guy her husband shot and killed" -- NYET. C'mon, man. Let's not deny the obvious.

    Russia played a massively integral role in the defeat of Nazi Germany. As did the USA, the UK, etc. Period. To deny that is denying history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    "Poland did not suffer under Stalin near as much as Russians did" is like saying "The beat wife suffered more than the guy her husband shot and killed" -- NYET. C'mon, man. Let's not deny the obvious. Russia played a massively integral role in the defeat of Nazi Germany. As did the USA, the UK, etc. Period. To deny that is denying history.
    The bottom line here is that it's now 2020 , and Poland is still pissed with a Union of countries that no longer exists . I think it's Poland that is perpetuating the bad relations with Russia , mainly because they are being coerced by the interests of NATO . Apart from that , it's not acceptable for the Polish head of State to be altering any historical facts at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    The bottom line here is that it's now 2020 , and Poland is still pissed with a Union of countries that no longer exists . I think it's Poland that is perpetuating the bad relations with Russia , mainly because they are being coerced by the interests of NATO . Apart from that , it's not acceptable for the Polish head of State to be altering any historical facts at all.
    Russian aggression is not a Soviet phenomenon. The Poles know that well. So do you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    The bottom line here is that it's now 2020 , and Poland is still pissed with a Union of countries that no longer exists . I think it's Poland that is perpetuating the bad relations with Russia , mainly because they are being coerced by the interests of NATO . Apart from that , it's not acceptable for the Polish head of State to be altering any historical facts at all.
    There was a good article in Real Clear World yesterday about the same problem between the US and Iran. Both are basing currently foreign policy on long past issues. The author argued that diplomacy has to get past that and focus on the future.
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