User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12

Thread: How much does entitlement and brain damage contribute to where some football players

  1. #1
    Points: 122,536, Level: 84
    Level completed: 91%, Points required for next Level: 314
    Overall activity: 16.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsSocialVeteran
    donttread's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    81413
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    40,754
    Points
    122,536
    Level
    84
    Thanks Given
    6,766
    Thanked 13,378x in 10,084 Posts
    Mentioned
    263 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    How much does entitlement and brain damage contribute to where some football players

    I watched ID's special about Aaron Hernandez the other night. He was a perfect storm waiting to happen. With potential elements of entitled celebrity, closet gay with gay hating father and serious brain damage thrown in. The brain damage was documented and very real.
    Anyway according to the story Urban Meyer talked Aaron into leaving HS early so he could play football for him in Florida. Then made sure no charges were filed when Aaron broke a bartenders ear drum in a fight.
    Meyer was not mentioned in the more serious incident where Aaron was ID'ed in a shooting while still in Gainsville and questioned but never charged.
    After Hernandez was convicted of killing his friend he was found not-guilty , despite serious evidence against him, of a double murder which was supposedly over having a drink spilled on him.
    God knows what trouble he might have gotten out of due to his talents even after becoming a pro.
    Entitlement , you betcha! But severe brain damage from hits to the head as well. Cumulative concussions . As if that's not enough he was rumored to be bi-sexual with a father so anti-gay it makes you wonder if HE might have been gay.

    I only played sandlot football, but a lot of it and we didn't have helmets. Nobody ever lead with their head. I don't even the think the leather helmet bad asses did. So that tendency could be unlearned by the game if the NFL was serious about it. If not, how long can we ask these guys to sacrifice their brains for our entertainment? Sure we all give a lot to earn a living including emotional and physical pain and even damage. But this. This is their brains.
    The look the other way thing seems so much stronger in sports than even say music or academics, business. It probably starts in middle school with a little help with the grades. That doesn't really help them either. That may be how we wound up with the likes of Antonio Brown and so many others? Granted football is taking more of a stand lately. But mostly in the pros. by then....

    Thoughts? Are big time football's days numbered?

  2. #2
    Original Ranter
    Points: 570,954, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.8%
    Achievements:
    SocialCreated Album picturesOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Awards:
    Posting Award
    Peter1469's Avatar Advisor
    Karma
    435937
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    NOVA
    Posts
    170,328
    Points
    570,954
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    101,998
    Thanked 86,918x in 58,317 Posts
    Mentioned
    2282 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I think so. Some pros have said publicly that they would not want their sons playing high school football.
    ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

    Please visit my blog http://thepoliticalforums.com/blogs/peter/
    (If a post link does not work, see the archives- it should work there.)

  3. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Peter1469 For This Useful Post:

    donttread (01-24-2020),Lummy (01-23-2020)

  4. #3
    Points: 14,550, Level: 29
    Level completed: 10%, Points required for next Level: 900
    Overall activity: 64.0%
    Achievements:
    3 months registered10000 Experience Points
    carolina73's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    3704
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Posts
    5,516
    Points
    14,550
    Level
    29
    Thanks Given
    2,777
    Thanked 3,696x in 2,579 Posts
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It might if they make the game no longer interesting with too many rules and the refs determining who wins.

    Okay. He can touch him with the left hand if his small finger is folded under the thumb but not if his left foot is in the air and they are beyond the line of scrimmage, unless they are inside the 20.

  5. #4
    Points: 22,167, Level: 36
    Level completed: 19%, Points required for next Level: 983
    Overall activity: 57.0%
    Achievements:
    Recommendation Second ClassSocial1 year registered10000 Experience Points
    Lummy's Avatar Post Review / PM Disabled
    Karma
    3822
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Posts
    8,911
    Points
    22,167
    Level
    36
    Thanks Given
    2,953
    Thanked 3,822x in 2,793 Posts
    Mentioned
    46 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Thoughts? Are big time football's days numbered?
    Yes.

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to Lummy For This Useful Post:

    donttread (01-24-2020)

  7. #5
    Points: 22,167, Level: 36
    Level completed: 19%, Points required for next Level: 983
    Overall activity: 57.0%
    Achievements:
    Recommendation Second ClassSocial1 year registered10000 Experience Points
    Lummy's Avatar Post Review / PM Disabled
    Karma
    3822
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Posts
    8,911
    Points
    22,167
    Level
    36
    Thanks Given
    2,953
    Thanked 3,822x in 2,793 Posts
    Mentioned
    46 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Compare to ...




    The zenith of pro football -- the 50's and 60's -- did not have anywhere near the dilution that it does today.

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to Lummy For This Useful Post:

    The Sage of Main Street (01-27-2020)

  9. #6
    Points: 22,167, Level: 36
    Level completed: 19%, Points required for next Level: 983
    Overall activity: 57.0%
    Achievements:
    Recommendation Second ClassSocial1 year registered10000 Experience Points
    Lummy's Avatar Post Review / PM Disabled
    Karma
    3822
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Posts
    8,911
    Points
    22,167
    Level
    36
    Thanks Given
    2,953
    Thanked 3,822x in 2,793 Posts
    Mentioned
    46 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It is the sport of exploiters and their lawyers feeding at the money trough.

  10. #7
    Points: 122,536, Level: 84
    Level completed: 91%, Points required for next Level: 314
    Overall activity: 16.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsSocialVeteran
    donttread's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    81413
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    40,754
    Points
    122,536
    Level
    84
    Thanks Given
    6,766
    Thanked 13,378x in 10,084 Posts
    Mentioned
    263 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I think so. Some pros have said publicly that they would not want their sons playing high school football.
    I think Fran Tarkington said something similar to that decades ago in fact.

  11. #8
    Points: 122,536, Level: 84
    Level completed: 91%, Points required for next Level: 314
    Overall activity: 16.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsSocialVeteran
    donttread's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    81413
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    40,754
    Points
    122,536
    Level
    84
    Thanks Given
    6,766
    Thanked 13,378x in 10,084 Posts
    Mentioned
    263 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    It is the sport of exploiters and their lawyers feeding at the money trough.
    How do you mean? These brain scans are real. Granted the player is part of the problem because I'm sure he is not always the one leading with his head. It's doubly sad because it really isn't the right way , much less a necessary way, to tackle

  12. #9
    Points: 14,550, Level: 29
    Level completed: 10%, Points required for next Level: 900
    Overall activity: 64.0%
    Achievements:
    3 months registered10000 Experience Points
    carolina73's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    3704
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Posts
    5,516
    Points
    14,550
    Level
    29
    Thanks Given
    2,777
    Thanked 3,696x in 2,579 Posts
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I watched ID's special about Aaron Hernandez the other night. He was a perfect storm waiting to happen. With potential elements of entitled celebrity, closet gay with gay hating father and serious brain damage thrown in. The brain damage was documented and very real.
    Anyway according to the story Urban Meyer talked Aaron into leaving HS early so he could play football for him in Florida. Then made sure no charges were filed when Aaron broke a bartenders ear drum in a fight.
    Meyer was not mentioned in the more serious incident where Aaron was ID'ed in a shooting while still in Gainsville and questioned but never charged.
    After Hernandez was convicted of killing his friend he was found not-guilty , despite serious evidence against him, of a double murder which was supposedly over having a drink spilled on him.
    God knows what trouble he might have gotten out of due to his talents even after becoming a pro.
    Entitlement , you betcha! But severe brain damage from hits to the head as well. Cumulative concussions . As if that's not enough he was rumored to be bi-sexual with a father so anti-gay it makes you wonder if HE might have been gay.

    I only played sandlot football, but a lot of it and we didn't have helmets. Nobody ever lead with their head. I don't even the think the leather helmet bad asses did. So that tendency could be unlearned by the game if the NFL was serious about it. If not, how long can we ask these guys to sacrifice their brains for our entertainment? Sure we all give a lot to earn a living including emotional and physical pain and even damage. But this. This is their brains.
    The look the other way thing seems so much stronger in sports than even say music or academics, business. It probably starts in middle school with a little help with the grades. That doesn't really help them either. That may be how we wound up with the likes of Antonio Brown and so many others? Granted football is taking more of a stand lately. But mostly in the pros. by then....
    Thoughts? Are big time football's days numbered?
    Aaron Hernandez was screwed up long before he strapped on a helmet. He was forced to perform oral sex on a guy when he was just 6 years old. Hi father was abusive, both parents were criminals and they were poor. His father died when he was 16. He became a member of the Bloods gang and was constantly in fights and always stoned.

    He was a lost kid before Football but being a spectacular athlete got him through school(s). I grew up with plenty of kids just like him. They dropped out of HS as soon as they turned 16 and they just disappeared. Criminal environments usually raise criminals. Parents that don't treat their kids right usually raise cold hearted children.

    All Football did to Hernandez is give him a free ride to passing school so he could play Football. I am sure they drug tested him and I'm sure that they wondered why his urine was cold, when they got the sample.
    Last edited by carolina73; 01-27-2020 at 01:30 PM.

  13. #10
    Points: 14,550, Level: 29
    Level completed: 10%, Points required for next Level: 900
    Overall activity: 64.0%
    Achievements:
    3 months registered10000 Experience Points
    carolina73's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    3704
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Posts
    5,516
    Points
    14,550
    Level
    29
    Thanks Given
    2,777
    Thanked 3,696x in 2,579 Posts
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    In terms of injuries in pro football; the players on the front line and the defensive line are about 15% larger in size than they were in 1970. The other positions have not increased at the same rate. Also, superior padding that makes them more confident that they will survive the hit themselves and more likely to take risk.

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Single Sign On provided by vBSSO